Horrible murders in minesotta

Started by shdrex on 23 Mar 2005, 08:15 UTC · 13 preserved posts

115-110950221423 Mar 2005, 08:15 UTC

In minesotta a boy called Jeff Weise killed his grandfather (ex-policeman) ,shot his teacher and coleagues, and in the end suicided (like the Schlutzstaffen or Geheime Staatspolizei fanatics, monsters that go to bed with Mein Kempf under their pillow)
His parents stated that he was a Adolf Hitler fan (he should've read Sven Hassel novels, then im courious that he would be a fan of that creature) posting on pro-nazi forums.
God have mercy on his twisted and dark soul.

"Why God should the many and good,
Suffer for the few and bad?"
Mihai Eminescu (1850-1889)

"In war, many suffered of hunger,
wounds and the cold.
But the most suffering was of those who didnt use weapons, which died unseen, lost.
The ones who suffered by human hands.
Their suffering was seen by every heart and, around them, the earth from which they appeared was ripping them slowly apart."
Nordahl Grieg

82-106196069223 Mar 2005, 19:56 UTC

His name is Jeff "Weise".

Don't trust what the media tells you... rather.. why not have a look for yourself? �He had a journal in the same community a lot of us frequent, though I'm not sure anybody here knows that yet.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/weise

It seems in light of his death and his dreadful deeds... the owners of the site have taken down the "comment" feature in his journal due to 10's of thousands of comments people put on it after the fact.

78-110711749723 Mar 2005, 21:07 UTC

I heard about that- that's just terrible. And no one saw the 'writing on the wall'?

Thanks for sharing that, Ravid... I think. That was a little scary I'll admit.

87-110773702023 Mar 2005, 21:34 UTC

We talked about that Jeff kid in school. My teacher told us that he once posted a poem in his class, that had the Nazi symbol on it. Freaky huh? Also, it is said that when he was shooting, he was smiling as he did it. All is very sad?!

Wolfen

70-110747806824 Mar 2005, 00:27 UTC

Hey I heard that somewhere. I think from one of my friends. That is just terrible...

69-110464574424 Mar 2005, 03:53 UTC

I can't believe he has LJ and posted his comments on there

!! But I live in MN, and it's so hard to believe that it would happen right here. It is really tragic, like Jonesboro or Colombine. I feel sorry for those who had to suffer.

115-110950221424 Mar 2005, 10:48 UTC

Thanks RavidWolf for the corection.
I dont agree, if he would have been a good man he wouldnt smile while making a bloodbath (5 such cases in 10 years in America) .
I may be a little wierd but think about it, only a evil man would kill his own grandfather, even those Sclutzstaffen fanatics would not kill their own family.
This nazi influence (completly exterminated from Germany, Romania, Spain, Italy) has dissapeared from the country's who had direct contact with them but America, Argentina and Norway is still influenced by it in some way.
Only a weak person can be influenced by them. I am a big World War fan, knowing what those SS, Gestapo and NKDV (KGB predecesors) did. I notice that nobody won in any wars, we all lost in one way or another.

P.S. I may be a little harsh on the lad but i just remembered after seeing at the news the old images from Kosovo with American tanks and near the road bodies piled up one over the other, was a very shoking image that lowered my hopes in democracy and war.

78-110711749724 Mar 2005, 19:52 UTC

Don't worry Shdrex. I know what you mean. It's hard to 'go easy' on someone who obviously didn't have any regard for life- even his own. Something was seriosuly wrong with him. And yes, you have to be pretty weak to be influenced by something like that.

78-110731266026 Mar 2005, 04:05 UTC

The thing that really scares me about this is something I heard on the radio about it. They said that this Weise guy (LOL! weise guy. I crack myself up. XD) was a loner at his school. No friends. No one to support him, or stop him from doing...well, this. The first thing that popped into my mind when I heard that was: 'Hey! That sounds...just...like...me...' After all, the main reason that I come on all of these forums is because I have almost no friends in real life, so I wanted to make some here. Thankfully, I have.

But anyway, it kind of freaked me out. I just hope that I don't end up like that guy.

nick

78-110711749726 Mar 2005, 21:17 UTC

Friends will help kids stay away from stuff like that, but only you can actually decide what kind of life you lead.

You really do have to be weak to succumb to something like that- things like that are embedded in the human mind as wrong. After all, it's not like parents/kids/the media go around talking about murder as a good thing- it leaves an imprint, and even if you'd never even heard of murder, surely that wouldn't mean a person would think it was okay. We're born with respect for other life.

Lol, don't worry Nick- you'll have us. I keep to myself, too, but I do have a lot of friends. I'm sure there's someone at your school who would like to be there for you.

115-110950221427 Mar 2005, 16:35 UTC

I agree with you, Nashoba.

67-106196056228 Mar 2005, 14:08 UTC

The thing with loners is, they're never truly alone. Some of them just live in the wrong place, I think. Look at me: hardly any friends at school, and when I got home every evening, I would sit in front of the TV or read (this was before the Internet). And now, I've got an active on-line life, plenty of friends spread out over multiple continenets, and even a girlfriend. I guess I chose better things to do with my time than Jeff did. And better role models. (Go Ken Jennings!

I think if all of us had been together in the same school, we'd have all been friends for longer than the months (and for some of us, years) that we've all been part of the Balto fandom.

76-106196064328 Mar 2005, 23:23 UTC

Terrible stuff. but growing up on a rez can take a toll. There are NDN gangs on some. Poverty, and high suicide rates. The general atmosphere I hear is just not good. I give sympathy to the killer being unlucky enough to grow up thinking such things he did, but I give it mostly to the victims. I agree with CW. Nobody is true loner. They just are not in the place that they belong or feel comfortable.

I have long believed that the environment and people around you shape the direction in which you go in life.