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Why didn't Balto tell his children...

...about saving Nome?

Started by Aniu1983 on 13 Feb 2003, 09:56 UTC · 34 preserved posts

WQ seems to indicate that Balto never told his children about how he saved Nome.  Doesn't it seem as though he should have?   There is the issue of Balto not wanting to tell them in order to "protect" them from their wolf heritage, but couldn't he have related the story to them without indicating that he was part wolf?  He could have just told them the basics of what happened, skipping over his encounter with Aniu/the white wolf.

When I first saw the movie, I was rather surprised that after Aleu is nearly killed by that hunter, Balto does not tell her the story.  He tells Aleu "You have a proud heritage", but does not explain how this heritage helped him.

Maybe if he had told Aleu about saving Nome, she would have realized that her wolf blood was a good thing, and something to take pride in.  But then again, I really don't know, considering that Aleu has such a stubborn personality.

Of course, WQ would not have been nearly as interesting if Aleu had not run off, but this is something I have been pondering since I first saw the film.

you make a very good point I have to agree with you I believe also that Balto should have told the other pups as well
Yes indead. Very good point! I think he should have told his children. If the pups owner goes " You are the pup of the Famous Balto!", the pup will be like :confused:"What?":confused:. The pup wouldn't know what his dad was famous for.
YES!! That's the one little detail I think the Director overlooked..Personally if I WQ's Director I Would've Done So.And Yes this is a very good point..

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(Edited by Alex Sanantionio at 9:23 pm on Feb. 14, 2003)

I think that the Balto from the first movie would have told his children. This is one of many reasons that I don't think of Balto and Balto 2 as being related to one another... Balto 2 just gets too many things wrong that it's almost as if there's an entirely new set of characters. Jenna, Balto, and Boris are all very different, and I don't think it works at all.
I think in trying to make the story line fit (shame in being part wolf?), they over looked that important detail.  I'm inclined to agree with Ag on that one.  The characters just don't quite match up with the ones in the previous movie.  In personality and looks. =/
I for one have to agree with Silver and Ag I found the characters to be way different then they where in the 1 Balto for example there attitudes and colors were off and voices plus some of the new charaters I really hate I think the first Balto is the best and will stay the best.
I agree with Loner! First off, the first off Balto had no additude! Second as with everyone else, colors were so wrong! It's kinda like they ignored Balto's colors in #1.
I agree with all of you.  None of the returning characters in WQ even came close to their original personalities.  This and the difference in their looks frankly drives me nuts.  

I no longer like WQ as much as I did because I am starting to notice the differences more and more each time I watch the original "Balto".  I would like WQ a lot more if the characters were more on par with the original.  

I hope that "Balto III" has animators who have had more practice with their work.

lol I think we are all wishing for some artist with some talent to tell you the truth. I just hope 3 isn't going to be bad but something tells me it will be.
lol ! Loner's right. Yeah, I'm wishing to get a  good artist with some talent and a love for wolves and dogs.
lol.  I don't think "Balto III" will be poor enough in quality to be considered downright 'bad'.  It will likely be about the same in quality as "Balto II" is.  WQ isn't a horrible movie, but it isn't really great either, in my opinion.  It is somewhere in between.

If "Balto III" happens to take place in winter, that alone will render it better than WQ in my eyes, since winter is my favorite season, and also because the snowy look of the first movie is part of what got me interested in seeing it to begin with.  To me, a "Balto" film without snow is like a wolf without a howl.

I am looking forward to the next movie, but with great caution, for I know that indeed there shall never be another "Balto".

Aniu1983>Soooo right! I'd never think that they would ever come up with something even close to the original "Balto",let alone surpass it.
Well in my opinion I don't think that we will have to worry about Balto 3 being close cause if it is the same ones who worked on Balto 2 it will proably even be farer from the original.

(Its just my opinion so plez don't get hostile on me)

Opinions just an opinion:smile:!
That was kinda pointless...o.O...
I'm pointless:biggrin:! Well, maybe not:sad:.

(Edited by NightWolf at 6:47 pm on Feb. 20, 2003)

=p @ pointless.

Well I don't see Wolf Quest as being bad either, but with all the new points raised, I do want to see if my opinion has changed.

As for Balto 3, I doubt it'd be any worse off than Wolf Quest.  I'm hoping that it'll be a bit better.  If they do bring back the same crew perhaps their skills will have increased since they made the sequel.  Here's to hoping anyway.

I hardly think one project would improve their skills to a level where the changes are noticeable. Chances are if they brought the same crew back,it'd probably be the same.
*Sigh* It seems that all good works come about only by drive of the dollar these days. Doesn't anyone do a great job on something just because they like to do it? As for Wolf Quest, I personally enjoyed seeing a return of Balto (even if it was uncomparable to the original). The way that the return characters were portrayed brought up some interesting psychology philosophy within me a long while back... As for a third film - I don't know much about it, so I can't quite decide whether it would be better or worse. Judgement before product is a difficult thing to quantify.

~ Jay ~
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I would think that the crew for "Balto III" would have the same people. �If the director of "Balto II" was satisfied with their work, he'd want to hire them again, right? �But like I said, I'd love it if he gave the job to people with more practice.

Even though I gripe about WQ's animators, one thing I did love was the backgrounds, especially the scenes that took place at sunset. �That part when Aleu joins the wolf pack is especially beautiful. �I also can't forget the few scenes with the aurora borealis. �Those were the spots in the film that reminded me most of "Balto".

The only thing that really worries me is that the next film will be full of that psuedo-Native American ideals. �I have no moral problems with this, for although I have been a Christian my entire life, I am a very open-minded one. �That stuff is just too cheesy in a "Balto" film. �However, since this next movie has the same director, those things will most likely be in there. �I can only hope that it's kept to a minimum, unlike in WQ.

Also, last but not least, I hope that they get a different voice actor for Boris. �I also wish that Boris could be portrayed more as a wise friend(like in "Balto")and less like an old, grumpy babysitter.

(Edited by Aniu1983 at 11:03 pm on Feb. 22, 2003)

It was a little strange seeing all that. I was so shocked when I first saw it.But it wasn't all that bad, was it? I mean,that's what the Inuit people is all about,right? Um,right???
well I was really upset with wq I never never thought they would go that far from the original Balto now I don't know about everyone else but lol I was very deappointed with the characters I think everything about them was wrong. now the one thing that I couldn't stand was that water it look to computerized at the end
i don't really like balto 2 cos the first one was beliveable and the second one gose totally off topic and gose on about weird silly dreams and ghosts of a white wolf,bears and wolverines.and the animation was pants,but nice backgrounds.also jenna???????? thats not jenna she is  more like dixi in balto 2.and where did steele and the trio go????? dress up as wolves i guess lol
#### ...just about everyone disliked WQ..and I also bet i'm the only the who uses these boards who really liked
it..Please dont flame me for my language...thanks

                                     Alex Sanationio

LoL well it sure looks that way Alex but its ok I think that we are all really shocked on how far away wq is from the 1 Balto
Aww don't feel too bad Alex.  I have my issues with Wolf Quest, but overall I enjoyed watching it.  Not even a tenth as much as Balto, but I still enjoyed it to a degree.  Besides it makes you appericate the work that was done in the original movie that much more.  And it also serves as hope for a better done(and hopefully last) third film.
I'm Fine with that.and I think that B3 will be a nicer film
because the production & design teams have more experince going into B3. I also think it should do quite well in its overall sales...just my opinion....

                           Alex Sanationio

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Quote: from Alex Sanantionio on 2:18 am on Feb. 24, 2003
#### ...just about everyone disliked WQ..and I also bet i'm the only the who uses these boards who really liked
it..Please dont flame me for my language...thanks

Some people say that if you really like something,who cares what others think! So don't get upset. It wasn't really good but still...
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Quote: from Kaynine on 3:32 am on Feb. 28, 2003
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Quote: from Alex Sanantionio on 5:18 pm on Feb. 24, 2003
#### ...just about everyone disliked WQ..and I also bet i'm the only the who uses these boards who really liked
it..Please dont flame me for my language...thanks

Some people say that if you really like something,who cares what others think! So don't get upset. It wasn't really good but still...
� � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �Alex Sanationio


Well I hadn't mean't it in that type of way and yes I hope Balto 3 will make more sense to everyone.... and i also agree with with all of the points made in this tread

(Edited by Alex Sanantionio at 9:40 pm on Feb. 28, 2003)

I dont dislike WQ. I enjoyed it alot. I watched it many times after it was done. But is is all a matter of oppinion.
I love the sequel! Even tho it wasn't anywhere near as good as Balto1.
aww who cares both of them were awesome
Actually, I don't dislike WQ as much as I previously thought. �I watched it again yesterday, and thoroughly enjoyed it. �I studied the animation carefully while I watched it, and found that aside from a few flaws, it is actually of very good quality in some spots, such as during the dream sequences, and when Aleu howls after joining the wolf pack(I LOVE that part!)

Several months ago, I watched "Balto" and "Balto II: Wolf Quest" one after the other, which was a mistake on my part, since the films are so different from each other. �

However, yesterday I watched WQ completely on its own, and so I saw the movie in its true colors, without comparing it to "Balto", and thus loved it.

Funny how when I watch the films together I can almost hate WQ, but when I watch them seperately I love them both for the awesome films that they are. �I'm one strange wolf, that's for sure...

Here's to hoping B3 is just as cool(or even cooler)than WQ!  Arrooooooo

(Edited by Aniu1983 at 11:49 pm on Mar. 1, 2003)