i want balto in europe, balto 4 must be ambiented in europe.
someone say something for balto 4
i say the universal is working for do it!!!
someone say something for balto 4
i say the universal is working for do it!!!
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Balto 4
Started by muk&lukLOVER on 14 Feb 2005, 19:33 UTC · 210 preserved posts
Well, sorry for redirecting to my forums, but everything I know and said about Balto 4 is in this topic :
here.
here.
No offense to steetboris or Anyone else,But I'M not going to get to excited about "Balto 4" just yet, But I'll keep My Claws crossed 
On the contrary I'm very exited about Balto 4, I hope they are working hard for it.
If they continue I will boycott the sequels.. I hope to god it stops, not because Balto 3 was bad, it wasn't I really liked it.. but enough is enough
{([*MiXeD fEeLiNgS*])} Oo
I wouldn't mind seeing Balto 4. Even though i thought that balto 3, was not that okay. But if the writers were to make the storyline better, i'd probably look forward to seeing balto 4. And anyways, i'm not really into a Balto 4 just yet. I think they should wait a little, before the actually create the fourth movie.
I only hope this "possible Balto 4" brings a sense of closure to the series, hopefully by clearing up some questions instead of focusing on Balto's children all the time.
You guys get what I'm talking about, right?
You guys get what I'm talking about, right?
| Quote (togo @ Feb. 15 2005,5:58) |
| On the contrary I'm very exited about Balto 4 |
All I ment was I need to know that "Balto 4" is more than just a Maybe before I allow Myself to become excited. As I've said before I'd Love to see a "Balto 4"(As long as it was well done) To Juuchan17: I know what You mean. Let's say "Balto 4"(If made)is the last one. I think a good sence of closure would be to have(By the end of the Movie)Balto go live with Jenna. Also though not to put to much focus on The Pups. I would like to know(As would You )if romance blossoms between Kodi and Dusty. Although the only thing hinted at in "Balto 3" is that Ralph likes Dusty.
i want balto 4 and i hope muk and luk main protagonist!!!!! 
| Quote (muk&lukLOVER @ Feb. 16 2005,7:05) |
| i want balto 4 and i hope muk and luk main protagonist!!!!! |
Balto 4? 4 real? I dunno, doesn't sound like a big hit!
| Quote (JenPup @ Feb. 18 2005,8:04) |
| Balto 4? 4 real? |
All We Know so far(Someone please correct Me if I'm wrong)is that There might be a "Balto 4"
Ja. �Balto 4 sounds a bit interesting in that European Forum. �Even though I cannot read German too well, I can see that it's going to be released about next year. �Alrighty? �I'd love to read German. �Anyway, B4 sounds like a making of LBT movie! �I stopped collecting those when they reached to 8. �I got 1,3,6,7, I think. �That's enough for me. �If Balto goes like that, it might as well be dead. �If B4 does come out, then I hope it's about the pups like the unknown pups or Aleu as a fact. �I want to see what happened to Aleu after B2. 
the producer are working about balto 4
| Quote (Dayami_Silver_Wolf @ Feb. 19 2005,11:25) |
| B4 sounds like a making of LBT movie! |
I have to politely disagree with that Untill We Know what the story is for "Balto 4"(If one is made)We have no reason to think It's turning into Land Before Time. After all "Balto 3" was very good so I prefer to think positvely
I think Balto may have a lot of sequels like LBT (how many sequels has LBT? 9? 10?) because there are a lot of fan.
| Quote (togo @ Feb. 20 2005,2:50) |
| how many sequels has LBT? 9? 10? |
11. As said many times before If the Storys are Great more balto movies would be fine. As long as They keep the bar high
I agree. As long as they keep up the expectaions, of the fans then keep them coming. And did they really, have 11 sequels for the LBT? That's quite alot. I hope that does not happen to Balto.
Wolfen~ is hungry.
Wolfen~ is hungry.
Balto four would be nice, but... STEELE PLEASE!!! 
Even if its just a cameo.
Even if its just a cameo.
| Quote (Wolfen @ Feb. 21 2005,7:26) |
| I hope that does not happen to Balto. |
No One wants that to happen
And Yes there are 11 Land Before Time movies.(technicly only 10 are Sequels 
) To Kitten: Steele was never killed off. so it could happenI hope it's going to be about Aleu too, but I won't hope it's going to be more than 4.
I own LBT 1 - 10, and I hope they will stop with the 11th sequel.
I own LBT 1 - 10, and I hope they will stop with the 11th sequel.
I honestly don't really want to see Aleu again and would like to call it a day with the Balto trilogy. I didn't like Aleu's character and also I could stand her voice actress, the word wooden comes to mind. Her voice sounded weak and whiny, complete contrast to both her parents and to be honest I am happy to put Wings of Change in second place an think that as the sequel WQ should have been. At least the European DVD boxes don't have numbers on, they are all just Balto - WQ rather than Balto 2 - WQ. No oneiwll ever know 
If there is a Balto four, I hope it's not about Balto's childhood. It'll ruin the fun in writing about what happened.
Even though I don't have WQ on DVD, I'm sure the disc would make a great coaster.
Even though I don't have WQ on DVD, I'm sure the disc would make a great coaster.
| Quote (Fluke @ Feb. 22 2005,8:15) |
| I honestly don't really want to see Aleu again and would like to call it a day with the Balto trilogy. I didn't like Aleu's character and also I could stand her voice actress, the word wooden comes to mind. Her voice sounded weak and whiny, complete contrast to both her parents and to be honest I am happy to put Wings of Change in second place an think that as the sequel WQ should have been. At least the European DVD boxes don't have numbers on, they are all just Balto - WQ rather than Balto 2 - WQ. No one will ever know |
That would be a nice thought. Unfortunately, Universal doesn't care about that (at least Disney did with its successful TLK trilogy). I really don't want to see another Balto sequel with Aleu in it either and I doubt the possible Balto 4 will have her in it at all. She's had her movie and it's Balto's series, so why not make it on Balto, people?
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| If there is a Balto four, I hope it's not about Balto's childhood. It'll ruin the fun in writing about what happened. |
I actually think a movie about Balto's past would be the best way to end the Balto series. I mean, it would answer all of those questions from WQ and the original film anyway. Plus, it'll bring some wolves into the story (hopefully no Aleu . . . . sorry guys). And Balto's dad!
Sweet.
I wouldn't really agree Disney did a trilogy of TLK, though I think one was enough; which I'll just leave it at that.
Some questions are best left unanswered.
Some questions are best left unanswered.
I would like to have a balto 4 and then stop with all the Balto movies for awhile. Balto shouldn't turn into TLB so I hope that they do a finishing sequel to Balto 4
I don't think they will make Balto into an LBT, they just might stop at B4 and he meets up with the rest of his pups, and end it there.
Hmmm.... who knows they just might put a little of his past in it too.
Hmmm.... who knows they just might put a little of his past in it too.
Well, Universal has a really filthy habit of making a franchise go downhill with sequels ahem LBT, An American Tail, Beethoven ahem.
But Balto seems a bit different, since B3 was better than B2, so I guess B4, if there was one, (and I hope that there will be one, especially if it's a prequel done well) could go either way. (Hopefully it would turn out to be an even better sequel than B3 )
But Balto seems a bit different, since B3 was better than B2, so I guess B4, if there was one, (and I hope that there will be one, especially if it's a prequel done well)
could go either way. (Hopefully it would turn out to be an even better sequel than B3 )Everybody seems worried that Balto will become the nect LBT, but as far as I'm concerned it could get THAT bad, could it? Well, I guess it could. I'll go with a quote from Captian Jack Sparrow of Pirates of the Carribean: 'Possible, but not PROBABLE.' or somethin' like that. Really though, I've never watched much LBT, but I saw some of it one day and that was enough for me.
Anyway, I've said it before in another thread, and I'll say it again: as long as they keep their standards up, I'll be just fine with more Balto's.
Really though, I've never watched much LBT, but I saw some of it one day and that was enough for me.Anyway, I've said it before in another thread, and I'll say it again: as long as they keep their standards up, I'll be just fine with more Balto's.
| Quote (SimbasGuard @ Feb. 22 2005,3:39) | ||
No One wants that to happen �And Yes there are 11 Land Before Time movies.(technicly only 10 are Sequels ) To Kitten: Steel was never killed off. so it could happen |
I would cry if Steele had been killed off!!
So the best bet fot for "Balto 4" would be a sequel with a large flashback of Balto's Past there are so many things that could be done, They shouldn't have a problem writing a Great Story(Especially if They get Cliff ane Elana to do the writing again). I think those of Us Who want to see Aleu again don't want Her to be the star We'd just like to see Her and Know she's O. K.
Well, if Balto is still popluar, there's a chance they will keep making more Balto movies to make money. Like "The Land Before Time" 11! :crazy: geez.....:anime fall:
I agree with you JayFoxFire. As long as it is still popular, they will continue to make more Balto movies.
Wolfen~ can't wait.
Wolfen~ can't wait.
I don't know Wolfen, you couldn't exactly call the original Balto a popular movie as it really flopped at the box office and most people have never heard of it, so how did it get a sequel?
To Fluke- I guess universal hired for a loan in the creation of the Balto sequels, but were to embarrased to tell the public (this is just an opinion Fluke, don't take it seriously). But to tell you the truth, i don't really know how Balto was able to get a sequel. Do you have any ideas guys?
Wolfen~ thinks hard.
Wolfen~ thinks hard.
| Quote (Fluke @ Feb. 23 2005,5:30) |
| I don't know Wolfen, you couldn't exactly call the original Balto a popular movie as it really flopped at the box office and most people have never heard of it, so how did it get a sequel? |
My philosophy is that someone in Universal came across Balto after it got shoved into the shadows, and seeing that it was was Amblin's best work, decided that a sequel may produce a lot of profits and sell well, since one hadn't been made yet. I think WQ was a bit of an experiment as to see whether the Balto franchise still had some profit potential, and since WQ sold rather well, B3 was made.
That sounds like a very solid Theory to Me Eurohybrid62
Yeah, I could certainly see it happening that way. Of course, it's always been a mystery to me why Balto did so terribly, but with these sequels... well, let's look at the facts. The films are low budget (not that that's a bad thing), they can sell a lot of copies, and thus make a LOT more money, so in other words, things are going pretty well and they could get even more money off of yet another, maybe more. And you know how they are: milk it for all that it's worth.
I would love to see a Balto 4 if it was quality, like the first and third. (Not that I don't -like- WQ, it's just that it was a big disapointment as far as quality goes.)
I would love to see a Balto 4 if it was quality, like the first and third. (Not that I don't -like- WQ, it's just that it was a big disapointment as far as quality goes.)
| Quote (Nashoba @ Feb. 24 2005,11:57) |
| Yeah, I could certainly see it happening that way. Of course, it's always been a mystery to me why Balto did so terribly, but with these sequels... well, let's look at the facts. The films are low budget (not that that's a bad thing), they can sell a lot of copies, and thus make a LOT more money, so in other words, things are going pretty well and they could get even more money off of yet another, maybe more. And you know how they are: milk it for all that it's worth. I would love to see a Balto 4 if it was quality, like the first and third. (Not that I don't -like- WQ, it's just that it was a big disapointment as far as quality goes.) |
That sounds about right.
Don't forget, WQ was just a "test sequel" to see if the series had any potential in it to become a DTV series, and it succeeded. Thank goodness WoC had much better quality (almost as good as the original at points) than WQ (even though I can picture a remake of WQ with better quality and fewer mistakes! . . . will never happen).
Really WQ was just a test sequel? I didn't know.To me, WQ was just a way to bring back the Balto franchise, not a test. But i guess that sounds right. WQ could have been a test sequel, to see if Balto could obtain more popularity, and thus far in creating some more sequels. I agree with you guys.
Wolfen~ is excited for winter vacation.
Wolfen~ is excited for winter vacation.
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| My philosophy is that someone in Universal came across Balto after it got shoved into the shadows, and seeing that it was was Amblin's best work, decided that a sequel may produce a lot of profits and sell well, since one hadn't been made yet. I think WQ was a bit of an experiment as to see whether the Balto franchise still had some profit potential, and since WQ sold rather well, B3 was made. |
That's exactly what I think, too. But I don't think they made B2 because they thought that it was "Amblin's best work". Rather because they already made 7 LBT sequels, and 2 An American Tail sequels that failed in sales terms, and so they wanted to change. So they thought about the only license they didn't make a sequel of (except We're back, but this one was a complete failure)
I also think that B2 was a test, and since the sales were more than every expectations they had, they decided to make a third. And since I think that B3 had/have good sales too, they will probably make a forth...I just hope it will have at least the same budget as B3, but I hope for a even higher budget.
God I'm glad they didn't make a sequel to We're Back.
Here's my 2 cents;
I would say the reason they made B2 was because the first Balto was gaining popularity over the years. It might not have shown in sells but with how many websites there are dedicated to Balto.. And repeat what was already said.
Here's my 2 cents;
I would say the reason they made B2 was because the first Balto was gaining popularity over the years. It might not have shown in sells but with how many websites there are dedicated to Balto.. And repeat what was already said.
| Quote (vulpe vulpe @ Feb. 24 2005,11:17) |
| God I'm glad they didn't make a sequel to We're Back. |
Aww man, don't jinx it! (I doubt they would make a sequel for that anyways)
Sad that I remember that movie . . .
| Quote (steetboris @ Feb. 24 2005,5:42) |
| I just hope it will have at least the same budget as B3, but I hope for a even higher budget. |
Well If "Balto 3" outsells "Balto 2" "Balto 4"(If made) could very well get a higher budget.
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| Well If "Balto 3" outsells "Balto 2" "Balto 4"(If made) could very well get a higher budget. |
But it won't, I'm pretty sure about that. Because there are many people who were disappointed by the first sequel and wouldn't want to buy the third, or even rent it. Most of you did because you have the web and you know what were the opinions on it, but it's not everyone's case. And the other reason is because I think they did even less advertising for the third. It was also more difficult to find it in stores than it was for the first sequel.
However, I don't doubt that it will meet their sales expectations, so a B4 is more than likely.
B2 an experiment? Well, actually I preferred Wolf Quest then Wings of Changes and I prefer Aleu then Kodi. I know B3 had an highter budget and technically is better, but I love the B2 final.
it's official news, the universal work for do it, balto 4 is on work
| Quote (muk&lukLOVER @ Feb. 25 2005,1:51) |
| it's official news, the universal work for do it, balto 4 is on work |
Ne? Is that so? *faints* OMg . . . . omG . . . . I hope they do a good job on it!
Where'd you hear this?
i hear this in italian balto's board
| Quote (Juuchan17 @ Feb. 24 2005,11:28) | ||
Aww man, don't jinx it! (I doubt they would make a sequel for that anyways) Sad that I remember that movie . . . |
You never know, and if they do; it gives you a reason to hunt me down with a rusted iron ax.
i hope the film will ambiented in europe but it's very difficult
Where in that board? I usualy post here and there isn't any so important official news. Just maybe universal is going to try to think about Balto 4, but they aren't working on it... Well, maybe they're working, I hope it.
I usualy post here and there isn't any so important official news. Just maybe universal is going to try to think about Balto 4, but they aren't working on it... Well, maybe they're working, I hope it.i'm sure they work on it but the news aren't in this board
I think I already said that the only thing we know about Balto 4 is :
Some people from Balto.de contacted Universal Germany about things concerning the Balto series, and in one mail they have answered that a Balto 4 was in planning. In another mail to another person, they said that they were collecting ideas for a new story. Since they are official emails from Universal Germany, we can take that as official, but for the moment it is just "in planning".
Some people from Balto.de contacted Universal Germany about things concerning the Balto series, and in one mail they have answered that a Balto 4 was in planning. In another mail to another person, they said that they were collecting ideas for a new story. Since they are official emails from Universal Germany, we can take that as official, but for the moment it is just "in planning".
steet you say something about balto 4?
Ugh that sucks, too much of a good thing is actually bad.
Yes Steet you said that somewhere but I don't remember exactly where. So What's "just planning"? Is Universal really working on Balto 4 or not? I can't wait!
| Quote (Fluke @ Feb. 25 2005,4:21) |
| Ugh that sucks, too much of a good thing is actually bad. |
I second that motion.
As for Balto 4; I don't care how make it as long as they don't make it about Balto's childhood. I don't care about Balto's childhood. Yes, I know it'll answer some questions but I like being able to guess what happened to Balto in his younger years then have them be told.
To steet- where the heck are you getting this information? (excuse my behavior, sorry if i hurt you). How do you guys know that Balto 4 is almost already official? Well i just hope that they send in good ideas for Balto. Maybe if we (yes i mean all members of TIB) all pull in together, and make some ideas for the next Balto 4, we can send them in toward Universal, in hope of using our ideas. Just an idea, but if you guys have any others, open up.
Wolfen~ thinks hard .
Wolfen~ thinks hard
.| Quote (Fluke @ Feb. 25 2005,3:21) |
| Ugh that sucks, too much of a good thing is actually bad. |
Well if it's only being planned it will be(At the very least) Two years before the movie is done so It's not like We'll get a Balto overdose
Yes, you're right, it seems it isn't even in preproduction, so not until two years.
The problem is that Universal Germany said this, because they answer to the emails; to the contrary of Universal (America) who has never answered any of my emails, and I suppose it's the same for everyone...
The problem is that Universal Germany said this, because they answer to the emails; to the contrary of Universal (America) who has never answered any of my emails, and I suppose it's the same for everyone...
| Quote (steetboris @ Feb. 26 2005,3:33) |
| Universal Germany said this, because they answer to the emails; to the contrary of Universal (America) who has never answered any of my emails, and I suppose it's the same for everyone... |
I've never tried to contact Them Myself, But I've heard of other people trying to contact places like Disney, and never hearing anything. So I'm sure It's not just You being ignored. That's why I don't want to get to excited about "Balto 4" just yet
Well, they're huge companies, of course they're going to ignore you. Unless everybody signs a petition or goes and pickets in front of the headquarters ...
...I disagree, even big companies like that should answer to the mails; if they're big, they should have enough money to pay people to do that job. At least, give automatic answers.
Steet, are you suggesting stuff or are you asking questions, they said they don't answer stuff that people suggest?
| Quote (Eurohybrid62 @ Feb. 26 2005,10:43) |
| Well, they're huge companies, of course they're going to ignore you. Unless everybody signs a petition or goes and pickets in front of the headquarters ... |
I think They'd still ignor us
No. I think they would probably react to a petition. That is if we had enough signatures for Universal to look at. But i think we need at least a thousand signatures (that is only a guess).
Anyways, if we were to conduct a petition, where would we get all those signatures. You guys wanna try it. � .
You guys wanna try and make a petition? This is only an idea, but we can if you want to.
Wolfen~ is watching TV.
Anyways, if we were to conduct a petition, where would we get all those signatures. You guys wanna try it. �
. You guys wanna try and make a petition? This is only an idea, but we can if you want to.
Wolfen~ is watching TV.
| Quote (SimbasGuard @ Feb. 26 2005,3:14) | ||
Well if it's only being planned it will be(At the very least) Two years before the movie is done so It's not like We'll get a Balto overdose |
I totaly agree SimbasGuard we will need some time to prepare for Balto 4.
And i dont want to have each month a new Balto movie because it would be a aberation and a insult for the viewers.
Anyway even now Balto 3 hasnt appeared in Romania so i cant even wait (got it in italian from my uncle) to see Balto 3 again in my native language not italian.
i remember steet wrote the news about balto4
No, I didn't write any news about B4 yet, because I think it's too early for that, and we don't have any solid information. But I talked about it on the forums.
A petition can be a good idea, I would be all for it. If most Balto sites could talk about the petition, we could get a good number of signatures.
But, a petition for what, exactly? It would have to be something precise. And something that would please most Balto fans, of course.
A petition can be a good idea, I would be all for it. If most Balto sites could talk about the petition, we could get a good number of signatures.
But, a petition for what, exactly? It would have to be something precise. And something that would please most Balto fans, of course.
are you sure???
No, I'm 100% sure I never talked about a B4 in my news. But I did talked about it on the shout box and forum.
A petition... Sounds good Steet, about what? Well, Spielberg and Horner come back? I don't know, have you got any idea?
Not to be negitive, But even if We do get a petition with enough names on It we could still be Ignored
What makes you think that SimbasGuard? (I hope i wasn't to offensive when I said that, if I was, I am sorry). I still think it would work. But I'm not sure what the petition would be about. Any ideas guys and gals?
Wolfen~ is writing.
Wolfen~ is writing.
I agree with Simba, I'm pretty sure a petition would be ignored; and I don't see no point in doing a petition.
| Quote (Wolfen @ Mar. 01 2005,9:09) |
| hope i wasn't to offensive when I said that, if I was, I am sorry |
You were in no way at all offensive Wolfen
And I to am sorry also(I hate being the dark cloud in the silver linning)It's just that I don't know if a petition would carry any weight in a non political situation. However if We go ahead with the petition Idea, I think a good thing for the petition to be for is getting Cliff Ruby and Elana Lesser to write "Balto 4" (WARNING DARK CLOUD AHEAD If Cliff And Elana don't want to do this even a petition won't change that.). Now all negitivity aside dose Anyone like My idea as to what the petition should be for?Thanks for your consent SimbasGuard. Anyways, I'm not so sure that is a good reason for the petition. Just to hire Cliff Ruby and Elana Lesser, who were the writers of the original Balto and Balto 3: WoC. I'm not sure that Universal would react to that. Just to hire two writers to make the storyline for the next Balto movie. Anyways, I some what agree with this idea for the petiton, but I still think that there is a better reason for the petition. Like you said, this is a non political situation. Ohh well.
Wolfen~ is thinking hard.
Wolfen~ is thinking hard.
I have an idea.
Just a petition for let know to Universal there are a lot of Balto fan, and of course Universal will work hard to content us. So just say: "thanks Universal we love Balto!".
It could be a good idea.
Just a petition for let know to Universal there are a lot of Balto fan, and of course Universal will work hard to content us. So just say: "thanks Universal we love Balto!".
It could be a good idea.
Or maybe make a petition to Universal to inform them of one or more of the following things:
- the Balto series has many fans (including us hardcore ones)
- maybe make one more movie, and no more afterwards
- (eh . . never mind . . .)
- idea of B4 about Balto's past (a perfect way to put closure on a great series)
- . . . . Um . . . anything else? These are just ideas I thought up.
- the Balto series has many fans (including us hardcore ones)
- maybe make one more movie, and no more afterwards
- (eh . . never mind . . .)
- idea of B4 about Balto's past (a perfect way to put closure on a great series)
- . . . . Um . . . anything else? These are just ideas I thought up.
A Prequel would be O.K., But I also wouldn't mind another Sequel, So I can't say I'd sighn a petition requesting One over the other. If We just tell Universal that We love Balto. We have to be careful We don't want Universal thinking They should make a "Balto" Movie every Year. Sorry for being such a Downer
i heard the film is on work and he'll come in 2006 on October
I'd like to see a lot of Balto movie like Land Before Time, of course not ugly movie, why don't you like this?
i want to see some balto's movie too:blues:
Here's the thing with me though, Yes it was cool that they made a trilogy of Balto because I think it's okay. But when they start doing too many sequels I think it's gonna become really redundant, like The Land Before Time, can you believe they made nine of them!
Three are okay, but 4 and more are starting to push it, though of course as Balto fans we're always wanting more from Balto and Universal might try to do that, but I'm just hoping that they don't make the same mistakes with other animated movie sequels...
Three are okay, but 4 and more are starting to push it, though of course as Balto fans we're always wanting more from Balto and Universal might try to do that, but I'm just hoping that they don't make the same mistakes with other animated movie sequels...
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| I think a good thing for the petition to be for is getting Cliff Ruby and Elana Lesser to write "Balto 4" |
Well, it would be a more than reasonable request; but seeing that both made the scenarios for many direct to video sequels from universal these years, I would be in fact more surprised if they didn't come back for writing B4.
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| like The Land Before Time, can you believe they made nine of them! |
You're out of the count, they already made 11 of them...And a 12 is planned.
I would have a good petition, but I'm not sure everyone would agree : Make a Balto video game, and in the same rank of idea, restart making Balto merchandises ! And, release the soundtracks of the sequels on a CD! And make a special edition of Balto with deleted scenes and such! (wow, I'm adding ideas as quickly as I write them lol)
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 03 2005,12:41) |
| I would have a good petition, but I'm not sure everyone would agree : Make a Balto video game, and in the same rank of idea, restart making Balto merchandises ! And, release the soundtracks of the sequels on a CD! And make a special edition of Balto with deleted scenes and such! (wow, I'm adding ideas as quickly as I write them lol) |
I like that request, Steet! Especially the SE Balto with the goodies and stuff and the soundtrack release idea.
I think that might be cool!
I don't think a Balto video game would go far. But making soundtracks for the sequels and adding special edition movies would be nice. But as far as merchandise goes, I wouldn't want anything too fancy. Say for example Balto underwear (LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-just a joke). But making soundtracks and special editions for the movies would be a nice idea.
Wolfen
Wolfen
I agree with Wolfen. I don't think a Balto video game would be very good.
I don't know about a Balto video game. What would you exactly do?
Restarting the Balto merchandise and the soundtrack would be a good idea, but it'll be hard to convince Universal. And they're making an LBT 12?! What now?! The dinosaurs didn't die yet?!
Restarting the Balto merchandise and the soundtrack would be a good idea, but it'll be hard to convince Universal. And they're making an LBT 12?!
What now?! The dinosaurs didn't die yet?!| Quote (Eurohybrid62 @ Mar. 03 2005,8:18) |
| And they're making an LBT 12?! What now?! The dinosaurs didn't die yet?! |
How can the dinosaurs die, They don't Age
I llike steetboris's Idea about trying to get Universal to release Soundtracks For "Balto 2 and 3', And/Or a Special Edition of "Balto" To togo: like White Fang said to many "Balto" sequels could make could make the story quality suffer I don't think making a Fourth "Balto" movie will cause such a problem, And If the Quality of the stories remains high They can Make as Many "Balto films as They want. To muk&lukLOVER No offense, But I hope You're wrong. If "Balto 4" comes out in 2006 It could mean that it was given a rush job production. In most cases that is not good I think the earliest We can hope to see a well done "Balto 4'"(This is just a guess on My part) is 2008.I don't know why you're saying that it would be rushed, Simbasguard. All the direct to video sequels, including the Balto ones, have two years of production. And considering that B3 was finished mid-2004...
Well, I still want a video game I'm sure they could do a nice one...
Anyway, what I want to see is more Balto products, to make it more popular. It needs to be more popular. There are so many people that doesn't even know about it...(I had never heard about it until last year...) If they would have made a video game, I would know Balto since a lot more time.
Well, I still want a video game
I'm sure they could do a nice one...Anyway, what I want to see is more Balto products, to make it more popular. It needs to be more popular. There are so many people that doesn't even know about it...(I had never heard about it until last year...) If they would have made a video game, I would know Balto since a lot more time.
| Quote (SimbasGuard @ Mar. 04 2005,1:59) | ||
How can the dinosaurs die, They don't Age I llike steetboris's Idea about trying to get Universal to release Soundtracks For "Balto 2 and 3', And/Or a Special Edition of "Balto" � �To togo: like White Fang said to many "Balto" sequels could make could make the story quality suffer I don't think making a Fourth "Balto" movie will cause such a problem, And If the Quality of the stories remains high They can Make as Many "Balto films as They want. To muk&lukLOVER No offence, But I hope You're wrong. If "Balto 4" comes out in 2006 It could mean that it was given a rush job production. In most cases that is not good �I think the earliest We can hope to see a well done "Balto 4'"(This is just a guess on My part) is 2008. |
i think it too but i heard this, i hope balto 4 will be product in 2008, if balto 4 will be product in 2006, i think it will bad
Weren't there two years between B2 & 3? ...
yes but i'd prefer the fourth balto's film it's to far
Yes 2 years between Balto 2 and 3, and the quality was good. And Universal worked on Balto 1 just three years, so maybe 4 years is a too long time. But I can wait more than 10 years if the quality will be hight. I don't think a video game would be a good idea, but the sondtracks would be nice as extras.
LBT 12?
LBT 12?
| Quote (togo @ Mar. 04 2005,11:36) |
| Yes 2 years between Balto 2 and 3, and the quality was good. And Universal worked on Balto 1 just three years, so maybe 4 years is a too long time. But I can wait more than 10 years if the quality will be hight. I don't think a video game would be a good idea |
me too
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 04 2005,2:41) |
| Weren't there two years between B2 & 3? ... |
If You consider that "Balto 2" was done in 2000 There are Four Years between Them. But You are right about the Timeline Maybe I shoud have said 2007
Hope they do im obseesed:;):
Soundtracks yes, if the music's good. A video game, no. Even as child's game, I don't see any way of anybody coming up with a Balto game.
| Quote (WolfyWolf @ Mar. 06 2005,1:31) |
| Hope they do im obseesed |
Me too
But if they do make a "Balto 4" I want it to be well made| Quote (SimbasGuard @ Mar. 05 2005,2:02) | ||
If You consider that "Balto 2" was done in 2000 There are Four Years between Them. But You are right about the Timeline Maybe I shoud have said 2007 |
i hope it
hmmm...if there was a Balto game, i think it will be for fucused on younger kids, and for a Balto 4, but I will still buy it, as I also have a 7 year old brother who is kinda interested in Balto. Hmmm...I just hope it doesn't end up like LBT.
| Quote (de_whitewolf @ Mar. 07 2005,2:11) |
| hmmm...if there was a Balto game, i think it will be for fucused on younger kids, and for a Balto 4, but I will still buy it, as I also have a 7 year old brother who is kinda interested in Balto. Hmmm...I just hope it doesn't end up like LBT. |
not here please
To de_whitewolf: The Quality Bar went Up for "Balto 3" so I don't think we have to assume That "Balto 4" would have a story that only children will like
I think we should just : wait & see...
i hope we should wait
You're right steetboris and muk&lukLOVER. Waiting is all We can do. Although It is fun to speculate on what the strory of "Balto 4"(If It gets made)will be about
I'm sure we will be surprised, as we were with WQ and WOC. (no one expected the plot of WQ to be like that before we've seen it, and the same for WOC)
Edit : or we will be surprised in knowing there won't be a fourth one
Edit : or we will be surprised in knowing there won't be a fourth one
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 09 2005,9:32) |
| I'm sure we will be surprised |
i hope
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 09 2005,3:32) |
| Edit : or we will be surprised in knowing there won't be a fourth one � |
It isn't amusing Steet.
Of course we can't know anything about Balto 4, but like SimbasGuard said, it's funny to speculate on what the strory of Balto 4 will be about.
i agree with simbas guard
I found this on DVDexclusive.com, I think it is an important news for the future of Balto (because it's about the family home vido division of Universal...) :
http://www.dvdexclusive.com/article.asp?articleID=1973
I believe that this time, a B4 is sure as ever :!: Will things change? Will there be even more LBT sequels now? (every 6 months, maybe? lol) I don't know if we can take that as a good news or bad news yet...
http://www.dvdexclusive.com/article.asp?articleID=1973
| Quote |
Former Lions Gate Family Home Entertainment president Glenn Ross has been appointed to head a new family unit at Universal Studios Home Entertainment. The creation of Universal Studios Home Entertainment Family Prods. aims to boost the studio's production and acquisition of animated and live-action DVD premieres in the family niche. The new unit also will create and acquire family fare for TV--both series and specials--though the ratio of TV DVD premiere production and the amount of output haven't been established. As general manager and executive VP of the new division, Ross will report to USHE president Craig Kornblau. USHE and Family Prods. will be completely integrated, Kornblau said. This relationship is expected to be closer than the connection between USHE and previous video premiere units, Universal Cartoon Studios and Universal Pictures Visual Programming run by then-Universal Worldwide Home Entertainment president Louis Feola. Feola, who announced in August that he would be leaving to pursue other opportunities, will collaborate with Ross during a transitional period. Universal Cartoon Studios will be effectively eliminated, officials said, with many of the assets and staff drawn into Family Production. Universal Pictures Visual Programming will be folded into Universal Pictures International. Kornblau declined comment about the prospect for layoffs as a result of the various changes. But he said the creation of the family division could spur new hiring. "This is not a restructuring to save money; this is about growth," Kornblau said. "This is the first time we've had a dedicated single-focus effort against the family business. We thought the timing was just right, in terms of video hitting ultimate and mass penetration." Ross cited increases in the numbers of portable DVD devices and car DVD players as evidence that kids represent a growing market segment. "As the family entertainment business continues to grow, the engine for continued growth will be the ability of our industry to identify new and creative programming to fuel demand," he said. |
I believe that this time, a B4 is sure as ever :!: Will things change? Will there be even more LBT sequels now? (every 6 months, maybe? lol) I don't know if we can take that as a good news or bad news yet...
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 09 2005,2:42) |
| I believe that this time, a B4 is sure as ever �:!: Will things change? Will there be even more LBT sequels now? (every 6 months, maybe? lol) I don't know if we can take that as a good news or bad news yet... |
Well, I hope things do change, for the better, since the "milk the series for all it's worth has gone too far." It seems the wings of change are flying over Universal. Whether things will change, we'll have to wait and see.
And proof that LBT has gone waaaaaaaayyyy too far: I once saw an LBT video game
and a boxset with about 9 or 10 of the sequels on DVD selling for $125 with an antitheft device attached. Who would want to steal it? lol yeah who'd want to steal lbt?
I wish they weren't making it or thinking of making it. It's starting to sound like a lbt series now.
I wish they weren't making it or thinking of making it.
It's starting to sound like a lbt series now.Even though They said Kids area growing market. It also said They wanted to do Family Films. So let's hope Mr. Ross is a Balto fan, And if They make a "Balto 4" It will be a quality piece of work that will make ALL Balto fans happy To steetboris: hearing this news gives Me a good feeling about the success of Your petition
To steetboris: hearing this news gives Me a good feeling about the success of Your petition | Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 09 2005,9:42) | ||
| I found this on DVDexclusive.com, I think it is an important news for the future of Balto (because it's about the family home vido division of Universal...) : http://www.dvdexclusive.com/article.asp?articleID=1973
I believe that this time, a B4 is sure as ever �:!: Will things change? Will there be even more LBT sequels now? (every 6 months, maybe? lol) I don't know if we can take that as a good news or bad news yet... |
good job steet!!!!!!
I just hope that Balto 4 will not be a low quality product, i would wait 2-4 years if its needed just to see it, but to see it like i have seen the others (above avarage->excelent).
Universal please dont make a aberation, no i dont want Balto 4 to be a regretable thing, but to be a standard for the Balto series.
Universal please dont make a aberation, no i dont want Balto 4 to be a regretable thing, but to be a standard for the Balto series.
we want high quality for balto 4!!!!!!
| Quote (muk&lukLOVER @ Mar. 10 2005,11:57) |
| we want high quality for balto 4!!!!!! |
Thats the spirit!
sure thats spirit is rights
I agree. They need to focus on quality, not quantity. Pumping out a bunch of sequels just isn't worth it unless they're good. Balto three was a huge improvement, though, so hey, maybe Balto 4 will be even better. I wish they would make it to the Silver Screen and not just be DTV, but now that they've started making the sequels DTV I don't think they could turn to the alternative. Anyway, I'm happy as long as it's quality.
And I agree, it is sounding very much like a series, but is that necessarily a bad thing?
And I agree, it is sounding very much like a series, but is that necessarily a bad thing?
| Quote (Nashoba @ Mar. 10 2005,5:36) |
| I agree. They need to focus on quality, not quantity. |
sure, me too
Yes, I If they are going to make a Balto 4, I Wantt High quality too.
| Quote (Nashoba @ Mar. 10 2005,10:36) |
| And I agree, it is sounding very much like a series, but is that necessarily a bad thing? |
I would say a kinda in between, if they turn it into an LBT, we're screwed....
| Quote (muk&lukLOVER @ Mar. 10 2005,8:57) |
| we want high quality for balto 4!!!!!! |
So say WE All!
yes we all, all the people, all the balto's fan!!!!!!!!!!
Lets hope that Universal will even make Balto 4 in a decent quality!!!!!! I mean, Universal is on a tight budget (from what I have heard in recent posts). I just hope that the petition started by steet has an effect on Universal.
Wolfen
Wolfen
| Quote (Wolfen @ Mar. 11 2005,6:43) |
| I just hope that the petition started by steet has an effect on Universal. |
There is always hope. *Crosses His claws for the petition*
there are some news??
Let me just say that if there's gonna be a Balto 4, then I expect it to become more situational and alot of problems in the movie.
P.S. : And this is just in my opinion. I really don't think that there will be a Balto 4.
P.S. : And this is just in my opinion. I really don't think that there will be a Balto 4.
no, balto 4 is on work!!
Really! I never knew that Balto 4 is on work already.
I don't think We have anything concrete reguarding "Balto 4"
I'm sure I heard something about Balto 4 somewhere Simbas.
Dont know, i dont think if there will be about 10-20 Balto movies will be a bad thing, the thing that matters is the QUALITY of these movies.
Right Shdrex! I agree!
I still don't know whether the movie Balto 4 is on work. I just don't know and I don't actually think that theres going to be a Balto 4. If there is, will someone explain what the 4th movie will be about please if they know that the movie is being at work.
| Quote (togo @ Mar. 15 2005,6:54) |
| I'm sure I heard something about Balto 4 somewhere Simbas. |
steetboris showed a German E-Mail that said a "Balto 4' is planed. No offense to steetboris or Anyone concted with that E-Mail, But for Me that's not Concrete proof. To Me all that shows is that trere might be a "Balto 4'. I hope there is one, And like shdrex said if the quality of the movie is good They can make as many "Balto" movies as they want. To Davon: I don't know this for a fact, But I think If "Balto 4" is in the works the story has yet to be written.
I neverrrr said that it was official, I always said it was rumors. It's just that I'm beginning to know Universal too well, and they will probably not leave something that sell that good. Universal always make sequels of the films which are well selling, animated or not. I'll copy paste below what I already posted on my forums.
Here's the charts for this year : (only the sales of this year are counted, and it's the top for 02/21/2005, so 20 days after the release of B3)
TOP DVD PREMIERE MOVIES: YEAR-TO-DATE
Rank Title (label/distributor) Street Date Revenue
1 MULAN 2 (DIS) 2/1/2005 46.8
2 ALADDIN: 2-3 COLLECTION (DIS) 1/18/2005 16.2
3 BLUE COLLAR COMEDY TOUR RIDES AGAIN (PAR) 12/7/2004 9.0
4 LBT: INVASION OF THE TINYSAURUSES (UNI) 1/11/2005 7.7
5 LION KING 2 (DIS) 8/31/2004 7.5
6 ALOHA, SCOOBY-DOO (WB) 2/8/2005 6.1
7 WAKE OF DEATH (SONY) 12/28/2004 4.3
8 LION KING 11/2 (DIS) 2/10/2004 4.0
9 BALTO 3: WINGS OF CHANGE (UNI) 2/1/2005 3.4
10 BARBIE AS PRINCESS AND THE PAUPER (LG) 9/28/2004 3.3
11 POKEMON: DESTINY DEOXYS (DIS) 2/15/2005 2.9
12 WHERE THE RED FERN GROWS (DIS) 12/21/2004 2.7
13 INU YASHA: THE MOVIE 2 (VENTURA) 12/28/2004 2.7
14 INTO THE SUN (SONY) 2/15/2005 2.2
15 SPECIES III (MGM) 12/7/2004 2.2
We can see that Balto 3 sold 3.4 millions , which is not bad but could be better...(especially if you compare to the 46.8! of mulan 2, and the 7.7 of LBT 11...which got released only 20 days before...)
A bit disappointing I think, but still could have been much worse, when you think that the other DTVs which are before are mostly big licenses.
No wonder why they are still making LBT sequels! They seem to sell like hot cakes! Shocked
EDIT : Funny, because the current sells of B3 are exactly the same amount as the budget that it had (3.5 M $ ) . Considering that this top is only for the USA, and that B3 was only released for 20 days, it seems they will make profits, or even big profits. To me, Balto 4 is ahead, for sure...
Mmm, I also completly forgot that it was also aired on cartoon network, which profits are surely not included in the charts!! (which was not the case of LBT 11) And a lot of people may have not bought it for this reason. Yeah, big profits...
Here's the charts for this year : (only the sales of this year are counted, and it's the top for 02/21/2005, so 20 days after the release of B3)
TOP DVD PREMIERE MOVIES: YEAR-TO-DATE
Rank Title (label/distributor) Street Date Revenue
1 MULAN 2 (DIS) 2/1/2005 46.8
2 ALADDIN: 2-3 COLLECTION (DIS) 1/18/2005 16.2
3 BLUE COLLAR COMEDY TOUR RIDES AGAIN (PAR) 12/7/2004 9.0
4 LBT: INVASION OF THE TINYSAURUSES (UNI) 1/11/2005 7.7
5 LION KING 2 (DIS) 8/31/2004 7.5
6 ALOHA, SCOOBY-DOO (WB) 2/8/2005 6.1
7 WAKE OF DEATH (SONY) 12/28/2004 4.3
8 LION KING 11/2 (DIS) 2/10/2004 4.0
9 BALTO 3: WINGS OF CHANGE (UNI) 2/1/2005 3.4
10 BARBIE AS PRINCESS AND THE PAUPER (LG) 9/28/2004 3.3
11 POKEMON: DESTINY DEOXYS (DIS) 2/15/2005 2.9
12 WHERE THE RED FERN GROWS (DIS) 12/21/2004 2.7
13 INU YASHA: THE MOVIE 2 (VENTURA) 12/28/2004 2.7
14 INTO THE SUN (SONY) 2/15/2005 2.2
15 SPECIES III (MGM) 12/7/2004 2.2
We can see that Balto 3 sold 3.4 millions , which is not bad but could be better...(especially if you compare to the 46.8! of mulan 2, and the 7.7 of LBT 11...which got released only 20 days before...)
A bit disappointing I think, but still could have been much worse, when you think that the other DTVs which are before are mostly big licenses.
No wonder why they are still making LBT sequels! They seem to sell like hot cakes! Shocked
EDIT : Funny, because the current sells of B3 are exactly the same amount as the budget that it had (3.5 M $ ) . Considering that this top is only for the USA, and that B3 was only released for 20 days, it seems they will make profits, or even big profits. To me, Balto 4 is ahead, for sure...
Mmm, I also completly forgot that it was also aired on cartoon network, which profits are surely not included in the charts!! (which was not the case of LBT 11) And a lot of people may have not bought it for this reason. Yeah, big profits...
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 16 2005,9:28) |
| I neverrrr said that it was official, I always said it was rumors. It's just that I'm beginning to know Universal too well, and they will probably not leave something that sell that good. Universal always make sequels of the films which are well selling, animated or not. I'll copy paste below what I already posted on my forums. Here's the charts for this year : (only the sales of this year are counted, and it's the top for 02/21/2005, so 20 days after the release of B3) TOP DVD PREMIERE MOVIES: YEAR-TO-DATE Rank Title (label/distributor) Street Date Revenue 1 MULAN 2 (DIS) 2/1/2005 46.8 2 ALADDIN: 2-3 COLLECTION (DIS) 1/18/2005 16.2 3 BLUE COLLAR COMEDY TOUR RIDES AGAIN (PAR) 12/7/2004 9.0 4 LBT: INVASION OF THE TINYSAURUSES (UNI) 1/11/2005 7.7 5 LION KING 2 (DIS) 8/31/2004 7.5 6 ALOHA, SCOOBY-DOO (WB) 2/8/2005 6.1 7 WAKE OF DEATH (SONY) 12/28/2004 4.3 8 LION KING 11/2 (DIS) 2/10/2004 4.0 9 BALTO 3: WINGS OF CHANGE (UNI) 2/1/2005 3.4 10 BARBIE AS PRINCESS AND THE PAUPER (LG) 9/28/2004 3.3 11 POKEMON: DESTINY DEOXYS (DIS) 2/15/2005 2.9 12 WHERE THE RED FERN GROWS (DIS) 12/21/2004 2.7 13 INU YASHA: THE MOVIE 2 (VENTURA) 12/28/2004 2.7 14 INTO THE SUN (SONY) 2/15/2005 2.2 15 SPECIES III (MGM) 12/7/2004 2.2 We can see that Balto 3 sold 3.4 millions , which is not bad but could be better...(especially if you compare to the 46.8! of mulan 2, and the 7.7 of LBT 11...which got released only 20 days before...) A bit disappointing I think, but still could have been much worse, when you think that the other DTVs which are before are mostly big licenses. No wonder why they are still making LBT sequels! They seem to sell like hot cakes! Shocked EDIT : Funny, because the current sells of B3 are exactly the same amount as the budget that it had (3.5 M $ ) . Considering that this top is only for the USA, and that B3 was only released for 20 days, it seems they will make profits, or even big profits. To me, Balto 4 is ahead, for sure... Mmm, I also completly forgot that it was also aired on cartoon network, which profits are surely not included in the charts!! (which was not the case of LBT 11) And a lot of people may have not bought it for this reason. Yeah, big profits... |
good job steet
Well, it will depend on if the analyst do the same analysis as me. But, if their only interest is to know if another sequel would sell or not, then a B4 is pretty sure. And I seriously think that the only thing that interest big companies such as Universal is money.
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 16 2005,4:35) |
| Well, it will depend on if the analyst do the same analysis as me. But, if their only interest is to know if another sequel would sell or not, then a B4 is pretty sure. And I seriously think that the only thing that interest big companies such as Universal is money. |
i think it' true but i hope is false
That stinks. Balto 3 didn't get that much popularity, compared to Mulan 2. Ohh well! Anyways, nice find steet.
Wolfen
Wolfen
Well, that's not a big surprise to me. I know because they advertised Mulan 2 more than WoC. *Watching Dakota play with his toys* I'm sure WoC didn't have the same popularity like Mulan 2. But, I thought both movies were both made very well. I loved them both a lot!
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 16 2005,2:28) |
| I neverrrr said that it was official, I always said it was rumors. |
I know that. If I made It sound like You said otherwise I'm sorry. Like I said I didn't want to offend You. You're right though Being that "Balto 3" was a Top Ten seller. I'd think Universal is more likely than not to make a "Balto 4". However this is stil just a maybe. My hopes are higher now than They were before
thank you for steet's petition!!!!!!!!!!!
someone heard some news??
Please, be considerate and use the edit button if you have somthing else to say, instead of double posting.It's what it's there for after all.
Thank you
Thank you
sorry but there are 9 days from the first and the second post
No I haven't any news about Balto 4 Muk&lukLOVER, I look for something twice a week.
| Quote (togo @ Mar. 27 2005,1:44) |
| No I haven't any news about Balto 4 Muk&lukLOVER, I look for something twice a week. |
me too but i haven't news
Me neither !
Wolfen
!Wolfen
the universal website is www.universal.com right?
Ehh.... sucks.. awful., i wish there will be no balto IIII
| Quote (BlackThunder @ Mar. 28 2005,3:58) |
| Ehh.... sucks.. awful., i wish there will be no balto IIII |
you don't like balto???
| Quote (muk&lukLOVER @ Mar. 28 2005,9:42) | ||
you don't like balto??? |
He doesn't hate Balto, he just doesn't want a 4th movie.
| Quote (Firewolf @ Mar. 28 2005,5:43) | ||||
He doesn't hate Balto, he just doesn't want a 4th movie. |
why?
??| Quote (muk&lukLOVER @ Mar. 28 2005,10:52) | ||||||
why? |
I don't know, I really think they should quit after Balto4.
| Quote (Firewolf @ Mar. 28 2005,5:54) | ||||||||
I don't know, I really think they should quit after Balto4. |
i think he love balto 1 but he doesn't like the second and the third so he doesn't want balto 4
So what? Nothing wrong with not liking every Balto movie that's out, and I really hope Balto 4 doesn't come true.
| Quote (vulpe vulpe @ Mar. 28 2005,7:47) |
| So what? Nothing wrong with not liking every Balto movie that's out, and I really hope Balto 4 doesn't come true. |
why don't you want balto4?
Because three is enough, and I don't really see a point in a forth Balto. Oh, they get into his childhood.. Who cares? It should be obvious he had a rotten child hood; he mentions in the second and third he was adopted by Boris, and in the first he was basically treated like dirt because of him being part wolf. Do you really need a movie to show you what happened?
Muk & luk lover..I am going to ask you to stop the one line posts and the double posting just as winter did. Just because there are 9 days in between posts means NOTHING. Do not reply to your own posts. We will delete offending posts. If you want to chat, use a messenger.
Vesta. I do agree with you on one-line posts and double posting being intolerable, however it's stated in the Rules and FAQ's that you can reply to yourself as long as it has been greater than 3 days:
Q: What if I want to add something more that doesn't relate to my first post, or what if no one responds for quite a while? (Rule #3)
A: Overall, double posting is not allowed, as there is an edit button and a single post's maxium size is 500K. However, if no one replies to a topic for three days or more (basically the topic gets old) and you have more information to add, that is okay within reason.. Posting again in the same day (either a few moments or hours) after your original post without giving someone else a chance to reply is just spamming and not allowed. In cases like those, you are to use the Edit button to add more information.
Kind of like a B.U.M.P. to show that the topic is still in existence
Q: What if I want to add something more that doesn't relate to my first post, or what if no one responds for quite a while? (Rule #3)
A: Overall, double posting is not allowed, as there is an edit button and a single post's maxium size is 500K. However, if no one replies to a topic for three days or more (basically the topic gets old) and you have more information to add, that is okay within reason.. Posting again in the same day (either a few moments or hours) after your original post without giving someone else a chance to reply is just spamming and not allowed. In cases like those, you are to use the Edit button to add more information.
Kind of like a B.U.M.P. to show that the topic is still in existence
| Quote (Firewolf @ Mar. 28 2005,10:54) |
| I really think they should quit after Balto4. |
That would be fine. Unless They can come up with a good enough Story to justify anything more than That.
I'm more inclined to say that they should quit now, while they're ahead. Unless they're going to put as much effort and money into a Balto IV that they did into the original Balto, then I'd rather they not make one.
Think about your favourite author. You'd want him or her to write many books about your favourite characters, right? Now think about this: what if your favourite author was rushing those books to crank out a dozen within a few years? Or what if your favourite author lets someone else write them? Those sequels are not going to be of very high quality, are they?
Think about your favourite author. You'd want him or her to write many books about your favourite characters, right? Now think about this: what if your favourite author was rushing those books to crank out a dozen within a few years? Or what if your favourite author lets someone else write them? Those sequels are not going to be of very high quality, are they?
Very True CW Tyger. If a "Balto 4" is made I want it to be well made. I like what was done on "Balto 3" so their is a good chance that(If made)"Balto 4" could be just as good or may be even better than that
If a "Balto 4" is made I want it to be well made. I like what was done on "Balto 3" so their is a good chance that(If made)"Balto 4" could be just as good or may be even better than thatBalto 4 should be at a high rate of animation. If there was a such thing as a B4. I don't see a competition of the highest between it and like (for instance) a TLK4 in itself. It'll be crazy. Balto 4 should a better animation like B3 and with a reasonable plot in order for we, Balto fans, to purchase something like that. But, what is a reasonable plot to you guys?
Dayami
Dayami
Back when Balto 2 was being made, I made a post to The Balto League about what I didn't want to see in an animated sequel. There was a time when animated sequels would always be about the son/daughter of the main characters of the original, and the parent(s) would try to teach the stubborn son/daughter something, the stubborn son/daughter would refuse to learn, the parent(s) would say something like, "You'll understand someday", which frustrates the stubborn son/daughter enough that they run away. But then something happens and the stubborn son/daughter saves the day, and in the process they learn the lesson that the parent(s) were trying to teach him/her. So in my post at The Balto League, I outlined some of the common cliches I'd seen in animated sequels, and that I hoped wouldn't be in Balto 2.
To me, a reasonable plot is a plot that at least makes an attempt to do something new (read: little to no cliches, and only when absolutely necessary), but believable at the same time... try to imagine magic in a Star Trek series. Captain Archer suddenly being turned into a tiger cub or something by a magical spell. It just doesn't work, right? Anyway, it has to be new, it has to be believable, and it also has to keep the characters in character. Would Balto suddenly want to fly? Would Boris fall head over heels for the first snow goose to land in the pond? Etc. (Personally, I think Stella's just a flirt, and an underdeveloped character - ironic words when you realize how overdeveloped some of her assets are.)
A reasonable plot of a movie also has to stand on its own (even if it's a movie told in parts... then again, the Kill Bill movies really have to be seen together to make 100% sense). They should make it so that Balto 4 can be seen without needing to see 1-3. But at the other end of the spectrum, there should be enough of the first three movies (I know I'm going to get set on fire for including the second movie) present in the fourth to make it a Balto movie. Without that, it's just a movie about a sled dog in Alaska.
I could talk about what Balto 3 did right, but I'm sleepy, and I think I can save that for another time.
To me, a reasonable plot is a plot that at least makes an attempt to do something new (read: little to no cliches, and only when absolutely necessary), but believable at the same time... try to imagine magic in a Star Trek series. Captain Archer suddenly being turned into a tiger cub or something by a magical spell. It just doesn't work, right? Anyway, it has to be new, it has to be believable, and it also has to keep the characters in character. Would Balto suddenly want to fly? Would Boris fall head over heels for the first snow goose to land in the pond? Etc. (Personally, I think Stella's just a flirt, and an underdeveloped character - ironic words when you realize how overdeveloped some of her assets are.)
A reasonable plot of a movie also has to stand on its own (even if it's a movie told in parts... then again, the Kill Bill movies really have to be seen together to make 100% sense). They should make it so that Balto 4 can be seen without needing to see 1-3. But at the other end of the spectrum, there should be enough of the first three movies (I know I'm going to get set on fire for including the second movie) present in the fourth to make it a Balto movie. Without that, it's just a movie about a sled dog in Alaska.
I could talk about what Balto 3 did right, but I'm sleepy, and I think I can save that for another time.
we want balto 4 in a good quality, so we have to wait about 2 years, if balto 4 will come in 2006 i think it won't good
Did you like Balto 3? I think yes. So if the quality for Balto 4 will be hight like in Balto 3, will you like it?
| Quote (togo @ Mar. 29 2005,5:22) |
| Did you like Balto 3? I think yes. So if the quality for Balto 4 will be hight like in Balto 3, will you like it? |
yes but i think if balto 4 will come next year it hasn't a good quality
To Paraphrase what I said in another Thred. I think the earliest We can hope to see "Balto 4"(If well made)is 2007 To CWTyger I know alot of people didn't like "Balto 2", But ignoring it is like saying Balto and Jenna never had Pups. Wich would have been a BIG Problem for Balto(And Duke) as Kodi would not have been There to grab Him as He was being pulled off the cliff. So I for one will not set You on Fire for including "Balto 2"
| Quote (SimbasGuard @ Mar. 30 2005,9:24) |
| To Paraphrase what I said in another Thred. I think the earliest We can hope to see "Balto 4"(If well made)is 2007 To CWTyger I know alot of people didn't like "Balto 2", But ignoring it is like saying Balto and Jenna never had Pups. Wich would have been a BIG Problem for Balto(And Duke) as Kodi would not have been There to grab Him as He was being pulled off the cliff. So I for one will not set You on Fire for including "Balto 2" |
why that people don't like balto 2? i like it, more people like only the first because is the real story
Or because people only like the first because it owns the other two, and they don't want to ruin what they enjoy by watching something they won't like.
I'd suggest to change this rule, as long as people can delete their own posts, they can always copy and paste the old one and add new content if they want to. Then it'll show up as a new post and it keeps our forums looking tidy.
| Quote (vulpe vulpe @ Mar. 28 2005,8:04) |
| Because three is enough, and I don't really see a point in a forth Balto. Oh, they get into his childhood.. Who cares? It should be obvious he had a rotten child hood; he mentions in the second and third he was adopted by Boris, and in the first he was basically treated like dirt because of him being part wolf. Do you really need a movie to show you what happened? |
Err....yes! And I do know that most people would want a prequel. I doubt it will happen though, too much hard for childrens.
As for the animation, I think it will be at the level of Balto 3, or maybe slightly better (as the gap animation-wise between Balto 2 & 3)
Since they no longer make high-budget traditionnaly animated film, including Disney, Dreamworks or any company you want, the best we could expect is something like TLK 1 1/2.
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| Back when Balto 2 was being made, I made a post to The Balto League about what I didn't want to see in an animated sequel. There was a time when animated sequels would always be about the son/daughter of the main characters of the original, and the parent(s) would try to teach the stubborn son/daughter something, the stubborn son/daughter would refuse to learn, the parent(s) would say something like, "You'll understand someday", which frustrates the stubborn son/daughter enough that they run away. But then something happens and the stubborn son/daughter saves the day, and in the process they learn the lesson that the parent(s) were trying to teach him/her. So in my post at The Balto League, I outlined some of the common cliches I'd seen in animated sequels, and that I hoped wouldn't be in Balto 2. |
I agree with that, and unfortunately WQ was also based on that.
Fortunately, to me, WoC did a much better job on that point.
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| They should make it so that Balto 4 can be seen without needing to see 1-3. |
I think WQ and WoC can be seen separately, as most Universal DTV sequels do. At last, the sequels are all based on the original, but no character from a sequel come back for another sequel.
The only thing I'm wondering is if there are enough ideas to be exploited in Balto for a new sequel. I'll let that the Balto writers, though. Anyway, we can't do anything but : wait & see...Even if Balto 4 is a disaster, I don't think most Balto fans will forget about it for that reason. We have more to win than to lose I think.
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar.30 2005,3:49) |
| the best we could expect is something like TLK 1 1/2. |
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 30 2005,3:49) |
| no character from a sequel from a sequel come back for another sequel. |
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 30 2005,3:49) |
| I'm wondering if there are enough ideas to be exploited in Balto for a new sequel. |
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 30 2005,3:49) |
| We have more to win than loose I think |
I'd rather it will came in 2008, because there will a high quality
4 years Muk&luk? Balto 1 has been made in only 3 years, so the important thing is that some people from the first movie will come back, like Spielberg, Wells, Bacon...
2007 ok? but i think if it will came next year it won't has a high quality
I agree with togo it would be awsome if Some of the original Crew returned as well as the original cast
| Quote (steetboris @ Mar. 30 2005,4:49) | ||
Err....yes! And I do know that most people would want a prequel. |
And I bet there's just as many that don't want a prequel.
| Quote (muk&lukLOVER @ April 01 2005,8:00) |
| I'd rather it will came in 2008, because there will a high quality |
More time spent on a film doesn't guarantee high quality. More time spent on anything doesn't guarantee high quality. Spend too long on something, and it'll be just as bad. Remember, don't overcook your dinner.
| Quote (CWTyger @ April 02 2005,5:36) |
| [quote=muk&lukLOVER,April 01 2005,8:00]I More time spent on a film doesn't guarantee high quality. More time spent on anything doesn't guarantee high quality. Spend too long on something, and it'll be just as bad. Remember, don't overcook your dinner. |
Good point. If "Batlto 4 is being made 2007 would be a good time for it to come out. However if "Balto 4" is only in the planing stages it could be 2008 or longer before it comes out
| Quote (CWTyger @ April 03 2005,12:36) | ||
More time spent on a film doesn't guarantee high quality. �More time spent on anything doesn't guarantee high quality. �Spend too long on something, and it'll be just as bad. �Remember, don't overcook your dinner. � |
long time guarantee high quality because you can do it more carefully
| Quote (muk&lukLOVER @ April 03 2005,12:33) |
| long time guarantee high quality because you can do it more carefully |
Of course if you make a movie in 2 months it isn't going to be a good movie, but 5 years don't guarantee more quality then 4 years. Actually, in just 3 years you can make a very good movie, like you can do a good movie in 2 years. I don't think that Phil Wenstein would make a better movie in 10 years, because Balto 2 was his first movie, and Balto 3 his second. And I think Balto 4 the third.
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Of course if you make a movie in 2 months it isn't going to be a good movie, but 5 years don't guarantee more quality then 4 years. Actually, in just 3 years you can make a very good movie, like you can do a good movie in 2 years. I don't think that Phil Wenstein would make a better movie in 10 years, because Balto 2 was his first movie, and Balto 3 his second. And I think Balto 4 the third. |
they start the work about balto 4 from a few months not from some year
| Quote (muk&lukLOVER @ April 03 2005,8:59) |
| [ they start the work about balto 4 from a few months not from some year. |
I'm sorry muk&lukLOVER I don't really understand what you are trying to say.
| Quote (Halfwolf88 @ April 05 2005,2:39) |
| I'm sorry muk&lukLOVER I don't really understand what you are trying to say. |
I think he said that Universal started to make Balto 4 some months ago, not some years ago.
| Quote (Halfwolf88 @ April 05 2005,11:39) | ||
I'm sorry muk&lukLOVER I don't really understand what you are trying to say. |
You have summed up my feelings about a lot of his posts, 1/2.
Anyway, wouldn't we have heard about Balto 4 by now if it is being made? Right now, we're only speculating. While it is possible that they could make a Balto 4 in the future, why are we talking about it like its a foregone conclusion that they've already started it? One could also say that with the Lion King movies so successful, Disney is making The Lion King 4.
I gotta agree with that, I think were going to far qith the Balto 4 planning when we don't know that its being done and made.
I too agree.
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| Quote (CWTyger @ April 05 2005,7:31) |
| Disney is making The Lion King 4. |
I wish(But They havent made a Lion King 3,As least in the U.S. yet)I have no way of knowing, But I think if a movie is in planning that means that Universal is talking about making a "Balto 4". In other words no Green light yet. Universal could still ax "Balto 4". That's assuming They are even thinking of one. To Me "Balto 4" is still just a maybe. I would love to see a "Balto 4" , But I know it's just a maybe, If even that
i'd like it will came in 2007 or 2008 but i want balto in europe
AWESOME! I didn't know that there was gonna be a Balto 4!! I have the 1st one and want the others.
Wa-ya, I just got finished saying there isn't going to be a Balto 4. Please don't take anything you read in this topic about Balto 4 seriously. In fact, until it's officially announced by Universal, pretend that it's April Fools Day in here, and that everyone is just trying to fool you into thinking there's going to be a Balto 4.
Ugh, TLK4? How would that be possible with there being no third, and I feel one TLK is enough.
That's just It Disney would have to make a 3rd Lion King(Wich in of itself would be hard because Everywhere but The U.S. and Canada Lion King 1 1/2 is called Lion King 3)first. I don't think Disney will make anymore Lion King movies. Although I'd love to see more. Now just to get back on topic. I think their is a good chance that their will be a "Balto 4", But it willl be some time before We hear anything
Yes, Lion King 1 1/2 is Lion King 3 everywhere in the world (except america, as usual...)
But I seriously think there will be a Lion King 4. (or 3 for america)
The reason is that Disney really need money at the moment, and which films did make incredibles sales last year? Lion King 2 & 1 1/2....
Disney is currently making Toy Story 3 and 4 (3 in production, 4 in writing stage), they are making a Cinderella 3, many many sequels to other animated films (too many to list...), so I really don't see any reason they wouldn't do a Lion King 4...
Universal said themselves that Direct-to-video productions for Family are currently incredibly selling, and the sales are expected to increase dramatically up to 2007. So they won't stop to Balto 3, and probably Lion King 3 too...
But I seriously think there will be a Lion King 4. (or 3 for america)
The reason is that Disney really need money at the moment, and which films did make incredibles sales last year? Lion King 2 & 1 1/2....
Disney is currently making Toy Story 3 and 4 (3 in production, 4 in writing stage), they are making a Cinderella 3, many many sequels to other animated films (too many to list...), so I really don't see any reason they wouldn't do a Lion King 4...
Universal said themselves that Direct-to-video productions for Family are currently incredibly selling, and the sales are expected to increase dramatically up to 2007. So they won't stop to Balto 3, and probably Lion King 3 too...
It may make them a lot of money, but unless they have a script, they can't do anything else, can they?
With the Land Before Time series, everyone knows they can just throw something together, and boom: there's an animated movie. With Balto, I like to think they have a higher standard of what's going in their scripts. After all, they hired the original writers back for the third movie.
With the Land Before Time series, everyone knows they can just throw something together, and boom: there's an animated movie. With Balto, I like to think they have a higher standard of what's going in their scripts. After all, they hired the original writers back for the third movie.
I'm not sure Disney would care about whether or not they can make a good script. Proof is they wouldn't make a Toy story 4 or Cinderella 3 if it was the case...The money is directing the new projects, not the ideas.
Besides, there are always new ideas that can be exploited. They have many scriptwriters, so I'm not worried about that. Even if it doesn't make a so much good film after that.
BTW, while we're talking about TLK, I've opened my Lion King site (see my sig?)
Besides, there are always new ideas that can be exploited. They have many scriptwriters, so I'm not worried about that. Even if it doesn't make a so much good film after that.
BTW, while we're talking about TLK, I've opened my Lion King site (see my sig?)
| Quote (Wa-ya @ April 06 2005,7:08) |
| AWESOME! I didn't know that there was gonna be a Balto 4!! I have the 1st one and want the others. |
you have to buy them
| Quote (steetboris @ April 07 2005,3:51) |
| I'm not sure Disney would care about whether or not they can make a good script. Proof is they wouldn't make a Toy story 4 or Cinderella 3 if it was the case...The money is directing the new projects, not the ideas. Besides, there are always new ideas that can be exploited. They have many scriptwriters, so I'm not worried about that. Even if it doesn't make a so much good film after that. BTW, while we're talking about TLK, I've opened my Lion King site (see my sig?) |
If Disney didn't care about making a good script, then why did they get the writers of the original Lion King to write Lion King 1 1/2? To me, that shows that Disney does want to make quality sequels. (Also, I read somewhere that they cancelled Dumbo 2, which would also indicate that they don't want to just churn out bad sequel after bad sequel.) And you can't say Toy Story 2 was bad; it was actually quite good. So they'd be justified in making a third one.
By the way, you might want to fix the songs on your soundtrack page. The Realplayer clips don't match the song titles, and "Lea Halalela" is spelled wrong.
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The Problem with Toy Story 3 is that Disney is making It without Pixar. I don't know how that will work. If Universal and Dinsey do anything more with "Balto" and Lion King, I hope(As evident by the last Two films in each series)That the Quality bar will remain high
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| And you can't say Toy Story 2 was bad |
No, on the contrary : I don't like the first Toy story but I like the second (It's Pixar's best film to me, BTW)
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| If Disney didn't care about making a good script, then why did they get the writers of the original Lion King to write Lion King 1 1/2? To me, that shows that Disney does want to make quality sequels. (Also, I read somewhere that they cancelled Dumbo 2, which would also indicate that they don't want to just churn out bad sequel after bad sequel.) |
If they have the possibility of bringing back the original writers, for not really more expensive than other writers, why wouldn't they take them to the job? Universal did the same with Elena Lesser & Cliff Ruby, because they probably didn't cost much more than taking other writers. And they still want to make good sequels of course, because they know people won't buy the other future sequels if they were disappointed by the last one
(It's true...) About Dumbo, I think it was cancelled at the beginning of its production, so they probably thought they should spend their time on another sequel which would sell more than a sequel to Dumbo. (maybe the midquel to Bambi?)The only main difference between Universal and Disney to me, is that Disney has a lot of different animated films to make sequels, so they have the choice...If you look carefully, they nearly have made one sequel to each of their animated films, at least the most popular one; so I wouldn't be surprised if they come out with a third one for each - which is starting with Cinderella 3, BTW...
| Quote (CWTyger @ April 08 2005,1:04) | ||
If Disney didn't care about making a good script, then why did they get the writers of the original Lion King to write Lion King 1 1/2? �To me, that shows that Disney does want to make quality sequels. �(Also, I read somewhere that they cancelled Dumbo 2, which would also indicate that they don't want to just churn out bad sequel after bad sequel.) �And you can't say Toy Story 2 was bad; it was actually quite good. �So they'd be justified in making a third one. By the way, you might want to fix the songs on your soundtrack page. �The Realplayer clips don't match the song titles, and "Lea Halalela" is spelled wrong. |
i don't like much disney's film, i don't like toy story 2 i prefer toy story 1