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Any official balto 3 info?

Details? release date? anything!?!?!?

Started by TameWolf03 on 19 Jun 2004, 20:05 UTC · 89 preserved posts

65-108225821019 Jun 2004, 22:32 UTC

I agree with you I don't think it's coming out at all.

83-108302525620 Jun 2004, 01:32 UTC

Welcome to the Icy Boards TameWolf03 Doin't give hope on Balto 3 after all Balto 2 was ready in 2000, And was not releasted untill 2002. What We know(Though I wouldn't call It Official yet) is the Movie will be set in Winter, It wiil be about Balto's son, And Sean Astin will do a Voice (Of balto's son I assume). The interview You mentioned also mentioned other movies(Chartet's Web 2, And Barbie Of Swan Lake) That have come out. For Me that prooves Balto 3 is real

83-108302525620 Jun 2004, 20:06 UTC

Quote (steetboris @ June 20 2004,1:03, am)

make a search for Balto 3

I did just that(So I could back You up steelboris, Not because I doubted You   ),And Balto 3:Wings Of Change came up It said 2004 Universal. Though IMDB had no info as of yet

84-108767392020 Jun 2004, 21:48 UTC

Hmm...wow!

Thanks for all that info guys-especially streetboris. �I think it's safe to say I'm a lot more confident now than I was before about them releasing a new film. �Hope they decide to soon.

At the same time though, I'm a little worried, because based on what I've been hearing, I've got a bad feeling this movie might be just another separate storyline like the second one, completely unrelated to the first two, leaving a lot of unanswered questions.

Then again, since the original writers are coming back for this one, �and it's going to take place in the winter, that's a good sign that the original theme of the "Untamed Alaskan North" may come back. �I'm praying that it's more like the original, and that maybe we'll learn more about what happened to Steel, and how Aleu's been fairing as the new wolf pack leader.

I enjoyed the sequel, and liked the message it carried. �But I didn't like how different it was compared to the first. �Most of the original characters did not return, the returning one's seemed to have very different personalities, and the theme of the whole thing was more Native American. �It's sorta hard to link the two. �Plus, Balto's still an outsider, living on that old boat by himself. �I would've thought that the townspeople would welcome him with open arms after all he's done. �I'm working on a fan fiction right now to try and bridge the two a little better.

But, what would make me really happy though, would be if this next film would have a big happy ending. �Sort of a conclusion to the whole thing. �I don't know if anyone can relate, but I did not like the ending to either of the first two movies-at all. �In the first one, Balto returns home, takes his 15 minutes of fame, and suddenly we're blasted back to the present, with nothing left of him but a "memorial." �It almost make's it seem like he died on the spot, and suddenly we're all mourning for him-the ending song doesn't help either. �At the end of the movie, I'm always almost more depressed than I am happy. �I mean, come on! �You don't shoot the hero after he's just won the battle!

And in WQ, well, it just didn't seem like an appropriate spot to end it. �The first time I saw it, I was like, "What? �That's it?" �It seemed like there should've been more. �We should've seen more on how Aleu faired with the wolfpack, and Balto returning home, and how he was going to carry on now. �It would've ended on a happier note if that was the case, showing that all is well. �The way it ended was more of a sad note.

Would it kill the writers to give us a more Disney-like "Happily Ever After?" �That's just my opinion. �I know that there are those who would disagree. �Please reply to this if you'd like! �I'd love to hear your opinion.

But in any case, I'll still be first in line to buy the new Balto movie whenever it comes out. �I can't wait to see more of the adventures of my favorite hero!

83-108302525621 Jun 2004, 02:05 UTC

When I saw Balto I also thought it was to short, But the ending didin't make Me sad I assumed Balto went to live with Jenna(Considering the look She gave Him, And the way He smiled back at Her after They nuzzuled Eachother on the hospital porch)at the end of the movie The fact He lived on His Boat in Balto 2 was one thing That bothered Me. Even though I loved Balto 2. I also thought it was to short, And I felt the end was bitter sweet. I would've liked to see Balto make it back home, and how Jenna took the news. I also wanted to know where Aleu and the pack went, But I learned On another Board that there was a good chance it was Russia. I plain on buying Balto 3 as soon as it comes out too Oh and if You write that fan fiction please let Me know, I would love to read It  

74-108043194721 Jun 2004, 02:33 UTC

Quote (TameWolf03 @ June 20 2004,5:48, pm)

Hmm...wow! Thanks for all that info guys-especially streetboris. �I think it's safe to say I'm a lot more confident now than I was before about them releasing a new film. �Hope they decide to soon. At the same time though, I'm a little worried, because based on what I've been hearing, I've got a bad feeling this movie might be just another separate storyline like the second one, completely unrelated to the first two, leaving a lot of unanswered questions. Then again, since the original writers are coming back for this one, �and it's going to take place in the winter, that's a good sign that the original theme of the "Untamed Alaskan North" may come back. �I'm praying that it's more like the original, and that maybe we'll learn more about what happened to Steel, and how Aleu's been fairing as the new wolf pack leader. I enjoyed the sequel, and liked the message it carried. �But I didn't like how different it was compared to the first. �Most of the original characters did not return, the returning one's seemed to have very different personalities, and the theme of the whole thing was more Native American. �It's sorta hard to link the two. �Plus, Balto's still an outsider, living on that old boat by himself. �I would've thought that the townspeople would welcome him with open arms after all he's done. �I'm working on a fan fiction right now to try and bridge the two a little better. But, what would make me really happy though, would be if this next film would have a big happy ending. �Sort of a conclusion to the whole thing. �I don't know if anyone can relate, but I did not like the ending to either of the first two movies-at all. �In the first one, Balto returns home, takes his 15 minutes of fame, and suddenly we're blasted back to the present, with nothing left of him but a "memorial." �It almost make's it seem like he died on the spot, and suddenly we're all mourning for him-the ending song doesn't help either. �At the end of the movie, I'm always almost more depressed than I am happy. �I mean, come on! �You don't shoot the hero after he's just won the battle! And in WQ, well, it just didn't seem like an appropriate spot to end it. �The first time I saw it, I was like, "What? �That's it?" �It seemed like there should've been more. �We should've seen more on how Aleu faired with the wolfpack, and Balto returning home, and how he was going to carry on now. �It would've ended on a happier note if that was the case, showing that all is well. �The way it ended was more of a sad note. Would it kill the writers to give us a more Disney-like "Happily Ever After?" �That's just my opinion. �I know that there are those who would disagree. �Please reply to this if you'd like! �I'd love to hear your opinion. But in any case, I'll still be first in line to buy the new Balto movie whenever it comes out. �I can't wait to see more of the adventures of my favorite hero!

Welcome aboard, Tamewolf! Nice to meet ya!

Anyway, I also hope that some of the original "Balto" charm will appear in the third movie as well. If anyone here as read any of my previous posts, you'll probably understand my whole feelings on the situation.
I did enjoy the second movie for a few reasons: (sorry if I'm off-topic)
1: The whole story - It was entertaining, but could have been better if some of the original minor characters had appeared.
2: The "new" characters - Yes! I knew that this would happen! I mean, it was obvious that Balto and Jenna would finally do it and have a litter of puppies! And to also make the sequel even more obvious, Aleu (Balto's "daughter-that-looks-more-wolf-than-him-so-says-that-stupid-goose") was made the lead character and the whole story revolves around "her" destiny and yet, Balto's heritage as a wolf has what to do with this? Strange . . . . sounds like something got left out to me . . . .

~that's it on that subject . . . . ranting over!

I agree with you when you say that the endings for the previous movies were depressing (the first one) and unconclusive (WQ). It would be nice if the whole thing could just have a nice ending that answers a lot of questions and not have people saying to themselves, "Where's the ending? There should be more to the story than that!"
And one more thing, . . . I might be ahead of you in that line for Balto 3! . . . ..  heh heh heh!

~ciao.baby . . . . . .

84-108767392022 Jun 2004, 00:57 UTC

Hey again guys, and thanks for the replies.

I know what you mean SimbasGuard. �At the end of the first movie, I think it's pretty obvious that Balto and Jenna stayed together and were to have a happy life, which is great. �But what my thought was, is that that was "back then." �What I would've liked to see was where Balto stands in the present. �The closing scene make's it seem like the answer is, "gone, and lost forever."

I would've liked to have seen some sort of final acknowledgement from Balto at the end, whether in spiritual form, in a dream or something like that, just to get accross the concept that "his spirit still lives on," instead of a 15 second span of this motionless statue, and that sad piano music in the background. �But, I see where you're coming from.

I also would've liked to known what happened to Steel, and his team. �Not to mention, if Balto fulfilled his dream of being in the dog sled races, and how the people of Nome now viewed him. �It left a lot of unanswered questions. �After I saw the first one a few hundred times, I always said, "Man, if they ever made a sequal to this, I'd be all over it!" �But I figured that would never happen. �I was very surprised and happy to find out that it did happen! �But I was dissappointed that Steel was not in the sequel, Balto was still an outsider, and he is still in denial of his wolf heritage-just like you said. �That's what my fan fiction's all about. �I'm trying to answer some of those questions, and also stick in some pre and post-Balto 2 events explaining why things are the way they are.

Glad you're interested. �I'll let you know when it's done. ;) �Unfortunately, that may be a few weeks, as I'm still waiting for my computer to get shipped from my parents' house to my dorm so I can finish it (I'm using a library comp right now). �It should be coming in a few weeks though.

Thanks for the warm welcome Juuchan. �Glad to be here. �I never really looked at the sequel from your perspective. �I guess you're right. �Balto 2 focuses completely on Balto's daughter, and not on him. �So where exactly does he come in? �I'm hoping that in the third one, he can sort of "take his story back" so to speak.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who feels this way about the endings. �And I can agree with both of you that there should have been more, and we should've seen Balto's return home, and Aleu's wolf experience.

On a side note though, I'll admit that the fact that these movies are different from your traditional Disney film is what caused them to grab my attention in the first place. �The obsession probably would've never started if Balto was "just another hero." �But, I still hope that the third's ending is better.

By the way, don't count on being ahead of me Juuchan! j/k

83-108302525622 Jun 2004, 01:55 UTC

I thougt The fact that Balto had not accepted his Wolf side in Balto 2 was a weak point in the story. As for Balto's spirit living on well Rosie remembers Him and She made sure Her Granddaughter knew who He was and what He did. I also like to think that Blaze although be it far down the line is one of Balto's Grandpups

83-108302525622 Jun 2004, 21:17 UTC

Quote (Juuchan17 @ June 21 2004,9:26, pm)

I thought Balto had accepted his wolf side with that powerful scene in "Balto"

That's just what I was tryiing to say, Thank You  I thought Blaze was a Male, But it dosen't say, And due to polite camera angle I can't tell by looking. So Blaze could be a Female As for story I think it Will be set Shortly after Balto came home from"Balto 2", But it would be nice if Balto 3 did have Blaze in it. Like the way He(Or She) was in Balto

84-108767392023 Jun 2004, 01:51 UTC

Hmm. �You do have some good points about the end of the first movie, Simbasguard. �I guess even though the final shot is of a statue, the writers did in fact send several other "hints" that Balto's spirit lives on through memories, and family stories. �I'm not gonna argue that anymore. �I don't wanna sound like a negative nancy.

I can definately agree with Juuchan on Balto's wolf heritage. �Towards the end of the first film, in that climactic scene at the bottom of the cliff, it seems as though Balto now accepts his wolf side, and understands what it's all about. �And between the following scenes where he howls, discovers his new found self confidence, and strong perseverance, he turns into everything you'd expect a wolf-dog should be. �Having the loyalty and friendship of a dog, with the fight and the heart of a wolf. �Which sadly, he seems to lose in the sequel. �It's ironic that his daughter turns out to be more wolf than he is, between her looks, personality, and her general understanding of her heritage, and where it brought her in the end.

Blaze...gee, I totally forgot about him!...or her.  I took note of the fact the he/she is a husky, but I never really thought that he could have some significance to the story. �It would be cool if he turned out to be a grandpup of Balto.

I doubt that's what the next movie will be about though. �I'm guessing that it's just gonna be another totally separate storyline, unrelated to the previous one, taking place lord-knows-how-long after WQ ended. �I think that Aleu will probably get a mention in the story, but she won't be in it. �But since the original writers are back, and it takes place in winter, I'd like to think that it will have something to do with Balto's son wanting to become a sled dog, just like Daddy. �

What I'm hoping is, just to make it more relevent to the original, that the story brings back some of the old characters, and renews some of the existing ones (I'd love to see the old grizzly bear attacking Jenna again!) �Maybe even have "Grandma Rosie" come back to continue telling the story to her grandchild. �I'm not sure that'll happen, but I can hope.

I knew you were joking Juuchan. �But, I probably will just go out and buy the new film, as I probably would anyway, just to say I own it.

83-108302525623 Jun 2004, 06:48 UTC

Quote (TameWolf03 @ June 22 2004,8:51, pm)

Maybe even have "Grandma Rosie" come back to continue telling the story to her grandchild.

I hope for That too      I also agree with the idea of Balto's son wanting to be a Sled Dog. Maybe We're beeing to hard on Balto. It could be like this He accepted His Wolf side in the first movie, Then after becoming a Father He realised His Pups might face the same torment He went through He rejectied His Wolf side(That's kind of what He told Boris in the second movie )

83-106196071624 Jun 2004, 15:20 UTC

Welcome to the forums, Tame Wolf. �Glad to see that you got your original question answered. �As for that, I've heard late 2004 early 2005. �I'd say be on the safe side and stick with 2005. �I'm hoping that if the film spent so long in production that it would be of a higher quality than Wolf Quest.

I also find it interesting how Balto seems out of character for a while. �My only explaination is that he wants his pups to be raised like dogs, and turns his back on his Wolf Heritage once again. �It would have worked if Aleu had found a nice home, but it wasn't meant to be. �Considering how accepting his wolf side made him a hero in the first place, it's a bit odd that Universal would play that angle. �Even if it was for the benefit of making Aleu a stronger character.

I find those cartoon laws amusing. �The ones where an off-spring has a trait that's only like 1/4th the strength of the parent's, and yet it's twice as powerful. �

84-108767392025 Jun 2004, 01:55 UTC

I think I can most strongly agree with the idea that Balto can't make up his mind on where he stands on being a wolf. �Simbasguard may actually be right, that he has accepted it, and just doesn't want his daughter to have to go through what he went through.

However, I don't think that's the case. �If he was fully acceptant, and to add to it, proud of who he was (like he appeared to be at the end of the first movie), he wouldn't still be so alone, living on the outskirts of town. �I'm guessing that certain apprehensions that he still had might explain why he has not pursued his dream of being a sled dog, and that perhaps he hid from all the fame upon saving the town, hence why he hasn't found a home...anybody besides me notice how he acted a bit afraid of all the attention at the end of the first movie? �Anyway, that's what I think. �Hopefully Balto will make up his mind in the next film.

So, there was a preview for Balto 2! �I never saw it. �I had no idea the movie was coming. �Then one day, when I was browsing through the new video section of the store that I worked in, I nearly jumped out of my skin to find Balto 2 sitting on the shelf...this time, even if I don't see a preview, at least I won't be so surprised!

Thanks for the post Silver Husky! �Glad to be here. �I've been hearing your name a lot since browsing all these Balto fan sites. �I've been a fan now for more than 4 years, but am starting to wish I joined a forum like this sooner! �It's cool being able to discuss my favorite movies in great detain with some fellow fans.

By the way Streetboris, I finally saw your sight the other night. �It looks great! �And it seems as though you've done a lot of research on the new movie...if only I could speak French �Ever think about making an English version of your site as well? �I'd bet you'd get plenty of visitors. �Just wondering.

Peace out guys! �Balto forever!

115-108568278525 Jun 2004, 05:51 UTC

I agree with you, and I also hope there will be good ads about Balto 3 and that they will be shown more than 2 days before its release.
Yes I want to do an english mirror, but it will be a lot of work, and I'm not hasted as I think there is already many excellent english Balto websites around the web  
Oh, and the information on my site about B3 is the same I summarized in my first post, so you don't miss anything important.

83-106196071625 Jun 2004, 15:10 UTC

I guess my name appears because my site is one of the older and has a decent amount of content. �But I'm just guessing. And yeah, it's pretty awesome to directly talk with a fandom that you really enjoy. �

I do remember about a month before Balto 2 was released, a friend actually found the preview online. �Another person at The Balto League found that there was a preview of it on another universal DTV movie. �So, some of us knew about it months ahead of the first previews. �It's not going the same way with Balto 3, unfortunately.

84-108767392026 Jun 2004, 19:23 UTC

Thanks simbasguard,

I figured that that would probably be the most reasonable explaination for why things are the way they are in Balto 2. �But then again, it's good to remember that the writers of Balto 2 did not have anything to do with the original ones, and the movie's a completely different format. �So, it may be allright to not see a very strong bond between the two, and to just assume that WQ was an afterthought story. �To me, WQ seemed like something you would see in one of those animated TV series that came from a Disney film (unrelated story insignificant to the original, different voices, lower quality animation, etc.). �But since it is titled "Balto 2," it's hard to think of it like that. �So, that's why I came up with that idea.

I'm beginning to wonder why the original writers made it so Balto shied away from the attention at the end of the original. �Anybody have any theories? �I'd like to know.

Glad to hear you're thinking about an English mirror streetboris. �Yes, there are a lot of great English sites already out there...but one more couldn't hurt. �Let me know if you ever dicide to do that.

Yeah Silver Husky. �Sounds like you've made quite a name for yourself with your site. �I've been browsing through a lot of these Balto fan sites for years, but this is the first time I ever actually jumped on board, and gotten involved. �I wish I had sooner.

83-108302525626 Jun 2004, 23:32 UTC

Quote (TameWolf03 @ June 26 2004,2:23, pm)

I'm beginning to wonder why the original writers made it so Balto shied away from the attention at the end of the original.  Anybody have any theories?  I'd like to know.

Your Welcome TameWolf03 I think Balto had never been peted before, And it shocked Him

74-108043194727 Jun 2004, 05:36 UTC

I agree with that comment, Silver.
I mean, c'mon! Who wouldn't be shocked if at one moment an entire town hates your guts and rejects you because of something that wasn't your fault (like being part-wolf, in Balto's case) and then the next moment the town suddenly they all adore you and praise you for being a hero (and probably doing a job that none of them would have been able to do anyway) and for a strange reason, they all seemed to have forgotten the fact that he was still part-wolf (or technically "half-wolf", since Mom was a white wolf and Daddykins was a husky)? Quite a typical I wouldn't blame Balto for reacting the way he did (at least he still ended up with the girl in the end!   )
Oh, one more question: Does anyone think that the whole "White-wolf-AKA-Aniu-who-is-also-Balto's-big-momma" situation will finally be figured out? I mean, in WQ it was soon revealed that Aniu, the spirit that contacted Balto, Aleu, and Nava, was Balto's mom. Yet, it is not certain whether she was the same wolf that helped Balto accept his wolf side in the first movie (I know most of the differences like the colors and the heights were way off! Don't argue with me about it!). I hope something in the third movie helps put this subject to rest!

~interesting, ne?

83-108302525627 Jun 2004, 22:41 UTC

Quote (Juuchan17 @ June 27 2004,12:36, am)

Aniu, the spirit that contacted Balto, Aleu, and Nava, was Balto's mom. Yet, it is not certain whether she was the same wolf that helped Balto accept his wolf side in the first movie (I know most of the differences like the colors and the heights were way off! Don't argue with me about it!). I hope something in the third movie helps put this subject to rest!

I think Aniu is the White Wolf from the first movie. It was shown in "Balto 2" that She was a shape shiffter. So She could have altered Her apperance however She wanted. With the original writers back They may look into this

83-108302525629 Jun 2004, 05:13 UTC

I know the Idea of a Balto prequel has been mentioned before, But I think It would be neat if Universal would do an Aniu movie(I know this won't happen). I'd like to knpw what She was like when She was alive, And why She chose a Husky for Her Mate, Seeing as the Wolves(Or at least Niju) thought this was taboo in "Balto 2". Maybe some of this will be answered in "Balto 3", As I'm sure Aniu will be in It    

83-106196071629 Jun 2004, 17:46 UTC

I have to say that you raised some very good points, Tame. Although I still disagree about Aniu and the White Wolf being one and the same. �I don't think we'll ever fully convince one another, as we have drawn our own conclusions. �I'd just like to share mine with you, that's all. �

Even if you put aside the fact that everyone was already drawn out of character, there are still a few other facts. �In the original Balto, the White Wolf was very much alive. �Spirits or ghosts, don't leave paw prints. �It also never said a word to Balto, or ever mentioned his name once. �The wolf was also quite large. �

In Wolf Quest, Aniu speaks to Balto in one way or another throughout the film. �It becomes very clear that she's a spirit/ghost/phantom. �She shape shifts into various forms to help Balto along on his journey (I'm quite certain that she was at least the raven). �Also, she was a bit smaller than the original White Wolf. �That and the creators of the original Balto wanted the White Wolf to represent Balto's wolf side. �In Wolf Quest, Aniu was just his mother, helping him and her granddaughter along. �Sure, that's not really solid proof either, but it's why I disagree.

74-108043194730 Jun 2004, 13:43 UTC

Quote (Silver Huskey @ June 29 2004,1:46, pm)

I have to say that you raised some very good points, Tame. Although I still disagree about Aniu and the White Wolf being one and the same. �I don't think we'll ever fully convince one another, as we have drawn our own conclusions. �I'd just like to share mine with you, that's all. � Even if you put aside the fact that everyone was already drawn out of character, there are still a few other facts. �In the original Balto, the White Wolf was very much alive. �Spirits or ghosts, don't leave paw prints. �It also never said a word to Balto, or ever mentioned his name once. �The wolf was also quite large. � In Wolf Quest, Aniu speaks to Balto in one way or another throughout the film. �It becomes very clear that she's a spirit/ghost/phantom. �She shape shifts into various forms to help Balto along on his journey (I'm quite certain that she was at least the raven). �Also, she was a bit smaller than the original White Wolf. �That and the creators of the original Balto wanted the White Wolf to represent Balto's wolf side. �In Wolf Quest, Aniu was just his mother, helping him and her granddaughter along. �Sure, that's not really solid proof either, but it's why I disagree.

I don't think anyone knows the answer. It seems that Aniu is Balto's mom (probably she's just a spirit or a ghost or something) but the White Wolf couldn't possibly be Aniu. They could be related though, since they both met Balto in their own ways. Probably the White Wolf is also a spirit (like TameWolf said), like Aniu is.
But I like your opinion too, Silver!

~just.my.opinion . . .

65-106196054201 Jul 2004, 00:15 UTC

Heh, who says spirits can't leave paw prints? �There have been supposed cases of people being scratched by ghosts, I've heard.  Also, (and this is proven), at the exact moment a person dies, a certain very small amount of weight is lost.  No one is sure why this happens, but I believe that it suggests that the spirit of each person has volume, however small.

It was only the widescreen version of "Balto" that fully convinced me that the white wolf is a spirit, since the screen area is larger, you can see that her vanishing into the blizzard is extensive. �The fullscreen version doesn't show this very well, darn Universal!

Regardless of what the original creators thought, Dev Ross wanted the white wolf to be Aniu, I know this since I e-mailed her several months ago(I can show the message for proof). �Hence I believe the company's profile of the WW to be thus updated.

Arg, I've ranted again, and I wasn't even going to say anything originally. �Oh well.

80-108034711801 Jul 2004, 13:47 UTC

I argee with all u guys and gals, who says that spirit is not real. For anyone here who do not believe in spirit or ghost, i dare you to go haunted house or the place that are haunted by spirits or ghosts and stay there overnight and come back to tell your experience!

83-106196071602 Jul 2004, 05:45 UTC

Quote (Aniu1983 @ June 30 2004,8:15, pm)

It was only the widescreen version of "Balto" that fully convinced me that the white wolf is a spirit, since the screen area is larger, you can see that her vanishing into the blizzard is extensive.  The fullscreen version doesn't show this very well, darn Universal!

Even though the blizzard is a good point, I still find it to be more non-tangible evidence.  After all, in a snow storm that fierce, it's easy to just "fade" away.

Even if the creators of Wolf Quest intended the White Wolf and Aniu to be one and the same, I personally don't accept it.  It's not that I believe everyone else shouldn't, I'm just not convinced.  Perhaps if Aniu was presented differently, and more majestically like the white wolf...  Then again, I have a hard time associating the returning characters as being the same ones from the orignal Balto.  So well, I guess that's where most of my opinion stems from.  Ah well, I guess they can't please us all. ;)

65-106196054202 Jul 2004, 06:05 UTC

Quote (Silver Huskey @ July 01 2004,10:45, pm)

Even though the blizzard is a good point, I still find it to be more non-tangible evidence. �After all, in a snow storm that fierce, it's easy to just "fade" away.

But, also remember that once Balto starts howling, the white wolf suddenly appears again, not as though she were walking out of the blizzard, she just sort of pops out of nowhere, even as she is remaining stationery. �Nevertheless, it is true that we shall never fully convince one another. �As we get older, I can imagine it'll only get worse *imagines trying to relate a differentiating opinion to her stepmother, and hopes she never becomes that bad* lol

84-108767392003 Jul 2004, 20:45 UTC

Sounds like we could debate about this subject forever. �Not that that's a bad thing. �I think that this may have very well been what the creators were shooting for. �I don't think that even they could solve this mystery for us. �It wouldn't surprise me if they just wanted to leave this subject open to discussion. �Everyone has some pretty good points, but I'm not gonna change my opinion

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In the original Balto, the White Wolf was very much alive. �Spirits or ghosts, don't leave paw prints. �It also never said a word to Balto, or ever mentioned his name once.

You're right about one thing Silver Husky...we'll probably never fully convince each other. �You do have some good points, but I'm definately not convinced that the white wolf in the original was alive. �Sure she left paw prints and all, but just her general behavior was...I don't know. �Mystical? �It seemed like when she came to Balto, she acted as if she knew very well why he was there, and what had happened to him. �And although she didn't speak, I thought it was pretty clear that she was trying to help Balto find "the wolf inside." �If it was just some random wolf in the wild, I doubt it would've acted this way, and it would've at least said something to him. �I believe that this wolf had some sort of significance to wolves in general. �And I'm convinced, it had to be a spirit. �In addition, the wolf in the sequel was more than "just Balto's mother," as the wolfpack often referred to her as the "great white wolf." �So, I do feel that they tie together.

I will give you the benefeit of the doubt on one thing though. �The first wolf did leave evidence that it had been. �In WQ, this was not the case, as Balto quoted after the wolverines dissapeared, "It's like they were never here!" �And I'm pretty sure that the spirit animals were Aniu in another form, or at least spirits summoned by her. �Then again, like Simbasguard was saying, the bear spirit managed to knock Balto and Aleu around.

I can see why it's hard to draw a link between the two. �But it was mentioned that it is hard to find a link between many of the characters in the sequel. �Again, I think that this was just a poor job done by the animators, and voice talents.

I won't claim that I am right about my opinion, but that's just what I think.

Oh and, thanks for the cookie Juuchan. �[I]*Gobbles it down, smiles, and wags tail.*

116-106196084604 Jul 2004, 22:32 UTC

Quite frankly, if you take into account the quote from the person working in the studio with Balto:

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"The wolf in Balto does symbolize his mother - the part of Balto being a Wolf."

It is very clear that it is not Aniu, becuase he specifically said "symbolized". Whether or not the White Wolf was spirit or not is still of some debate, though I am quite sure it was a real wolf. If the people who made Wolf Quest considered the White Wolf as Balto's mother, they were mistaken on the intent of the first crew, so I will not accept their opinion. \n\n

74-107034150005 Jul 2004, 04:22 UTC

Bah.  No more arguing about the white wolf!  We all REALLY know that the white wolf is really an ALIEN with teleport capabilities from SuperSecretGumball Planet B-X12!  And she/he/it? is hiding in Alaska to avoid a secret government capture team when her craft crash-landed after colliding with a flock of Russian snow geese.

She saw Balto lying in the snow, and assumed him to be an ambassador to the region.  She howled for him to take her to his leader.  When he didn't respond, she wandered away... but when he finally did howl back, mistaking her for one of his own kind, she teleported back, wondering why on earth he had just asked her left hind foot out on a date to the All-You-Can-Eat Tribble & Chitlins Buffet in the Arcturus star system.  The conversation only progressed in ludicrousness from there, until the white alien wolf was utterly convinced that the inhabitants of this insignificant blue-green planet were totally off their rocker, and vowed that if she ever got off this pathetic rock, she would cast her vote in favor of demolishing the world so a shiny new hyperspace bypass could be constructed in its stead.

69-106279399505 Jul 2004, 04:58 UTC

But what she didn't know is that Balto was wired and imediately began relaying information to government officials in Area-51.  They were warned that an alien being with the characteristics of an over-grown wolf was invading Alaska in an attempt to rid the land of all the milk-and-cereal bars! However, what she did not reveal to Balto was her power of heat vision! With this she would melt the polar ice caps and wash the bars into the Pacific Ocean where giant mutant snails would begin the harvest.

83-108302525607 Jul 2004, 03:29 UTC

No offence steelboris, But I agree with Silver Huskey on This one. November 8th is a Monday, Most(Not all but most ) DVDs are released on tuesdays(Shrek 2 coming Friday November 5th is a noteable exception). Thank You for the Info though at least it's a maybe

84-108767392009 Jul 2004, 01:43 UTC

lol. �Well, I don't know about that whole alien theory, but I suppose whatever conclusion made about the white wolf could be held true, since the creators from each movie had nothing to do with each other. �But, I think it's a good idea to put that debate in the back pocket for now...the theories are getting a little out there.

So, back to the original topic. �November, eh? �Wow. �Not sure if I should get my hopes up or not. �That site does look somewhat promising, but I can't say for sure. �That's a little bit sooner than I would've expected (I was thinking early next year), but I hope it's true! �Thanks for the info Streetboris.

Does anybody speak...whatever language that is on that site? �(Russian maybe?) �

83-108302525610 Jul 2004, 01:46 UTC

Thank You steelboris    

84-108767392010 Jul 2004, 22:25 UTC

Yeah, thanks!
� � I appreciate you taking the time to do that. �You were right, that most of that info was stuff I already knew. �But, there were some parts that were still helpful, like those artworks. �Not sure if they are offical works, but I think it's safe to say that new characters will be added once again.
� � And there were parts of that interview that I missed the first time I read it. �I did some research on the actors in Balto 3. �Looks like most of the one's from Balto 2 are coming back. �That's a little dissapointing, but I guess I can't expect much more...so, Sam from The Lord of the Rings is playing Balto's son...don't know if that's a good thing or not. �From what I've seen, he seems like a little too serious of a character to play this role. �Then again, LOTR is the only movie I've seen him in. �And I'm sure that he has other acting abilities than that.
� � By the way, I figured that the site you mentioned before was the Czech Republic. �But I thought maybe they spoke Russian...since Russia is pretty close to it. �I looked up that country's national language online, and the language is simply called "Czech." �I doubt we can find anyone on this site who speaks that since it's not a common language. �Well, maybe more info will come out soon.

115-108568278511 Jul 2004, 20:05 UTC

Well, that's not really related to the topic, but I wanted to let you know I've opened the English mirror of my site. It has exactly the same content, I have not translated everything though so I used automatic translations, but it's all in english now! Here it is:
Balto source english mirror

Yes, it's sure there will be new characters once again, but it is the case of every sequel I think (well it wasn't for the Jungle Book 2, and it is the worse sequel I have ever seen IMO! )
Famous voice actors does not mean better film, perhaps greater budget. But it will still be the same Korean team for the drawings I guess, so I don't think it will be really better on the graphical side.
Yes it is in Czech...I wonder why a shop in a country like that would be the first to have the release date, moreover there isn't even Balto 1 or 2 on the catalog list...But I checked the release dates of other films, and they seems correct, so who knows?  

83-108302525612 Jul 2004, 02:59 UTC

Quote (steetboris @ July 11 2004,3:05, pm)

Yes, it's sure there will be new characters once again, but it is the case of every sequel I think (well it wasn't for the Jungle Book 2,

Lucky the Vulcher(sp?) was a new character in that movie

115-108568278514 Jul 2004, 12:35 UTC

Very interesting point of view, Lupercal!
I must say I agree with you on most of what you said. Except for a few things:
I wouldn't want an Aleu 2, and I doubt we will ever see one. Like you said, it would mean we would not see any of the original characters, and even if it was the most interesting character in the sequel, I don't think they can expand her story to make an interesting sequel now.
Concerning Balto 3, I have good hopes on it; the fact is, even if it is on the same level as Balto 2 (and all clues point in that direction) , it would still be OK for me. But it's just my opinion and I know it is not the case for everyone.

74-107034150015 Jul 2004, 02:55 UTC

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However, I don't think this nescessarily creates a must-have-puppies scenario for the sequel. I mean, it took my folks nearly 10 years! So I can't see any compelling reason why Balto 2 couldn't have been, let's say Balto and Jenna on some other adventure.

You forget this is a Christian society. � The Pope said contraceptives were bad! �And if Balto and Jenna are together and not having kids, they will be DAMNED TO THE FIRES OF HELL FOREVER AND EVER!

Heh, but really, I do agree that they could have done something different, though if it weren't for the writers of the original film, the subject wouldn't even have come up. �Why have a love interest at all? �Isn't straight action-adventure good enough? �Why spread your story thin across two demographics (the boys who think love is yucky, and the girls who need romance)?

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I don't think the writer's would deliberately inflict a heavy 'and then society kicks him out again' message on its intended young audience in the sequel.

Neither do I any more, though it was interesting to see a continued melancholy attitude from Balto about the whole ordeal, which suggests the writers of the film weren't completely dim. �He finally admitted something that I think really needed to be said, that "being different is painful."

Concept-wise, I liked BII more than BI. �The first Balto was about Balto trying to fit into a society he didn't fit into. �Wolf Quest was not about putting a square peg in a round hole, but finding a square hole for the square peg, which is a much more appealing (and healthy) idea to me. �*shrugs* �To each his own, I guess.

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I'm afraid what you see as the product of deliberation, I'm inclined to see as the product of sloppiness.

I came to the same conclusion as you in my first post, that Balto's resumed exile was self-inflicted in order to protect his daughter from society: �a necessary story element to drive Aleu away once she finds out the truth. �I don't really consider this "sloppy", though you're entitled to your own opinion.

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You sort of wonder why Balto was even having these visions, since he didn't end up leading the wolves anyway.

You forget that Balto had another issue he was wrestling with in BII: �letting go of his daughter so that she could live her own life and be complete. �This is why Balto was having those dreams, and why Balto needed to go on the quest. �He needed to see first-hand that his daughter was capable of taking care of herself and others, and she needed that last goodbye from him so she could finish her own "journey".

In this sense, Balto was completed in another way. �He fathered pups. �He did a great job raising them. �He said goodbye (finally). �Yes, it's sad to say goodbye, but at least he knew he did the right thing in the end. �I didn't really see him as a "lost" individual at all when the credits finally rolled.

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Balto obviously has more issues than ever which need working out at the end of Wolf Quest.

The only issue I see he has left to deal with is his mother, and even then it's a pretty big if. �However, I don't think the writers and director will dig too deep into Balto's past. �If they're smart, they'll just drop hints (like the teasing hints they dropped in BII, and even in BI) but never tell what his real history was.

I'm sure his past is frikkin' awesome, but honestly, does anyone really want to know it in detail? �I say go with what worked for Clint Eastwood for so long, and leave it a mystery. �It makes Balto THAT much cooler. �

As for Wings of Change, I'm not ready to condemn a movie I haven't seen. �Yes, it's a direct-to-video sequel that will probably have a lot of sore points for sure (just as Wolf Quest had a lot of stuff that, if I were in charge, I would have done much differently), but I'm confident that there will be a lot of good points too. �If it's on par with Wolf Quest, then I'll be happy.

83-108302525615 Jul 2004, 13:43 UTC

Quote (Joshua @ July 14 2004,9:55, pm)

I'm sure his past is frikkin' awesome, but honestly, does anyone really want to know it in detail?  I say go with what worked for Clint Eastwood for so long, and leave it a mystery.  It makes Balto THAT much cooler.

I don't think knowing Balto's past would make Him any less cool. I think They made a prequel It would be cool

74-108043194717 Jul 2004, 04:00 UTC

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. . . Secondly, You definately had some great points in your first post, Loop. �I can agree with you almost 100%. �I have no argument on the whole issue with Jenna. �She seemed like a totally different character in WQ. �She's transformed to nothing but a "good mother," in the sequel. �What ever happened to the fighting, bear-attacking side of her? . . . . . . As for the whole issue about sequels always being about offspring, I don't really have a position on this particular issue as to whether it's right or wrong. �But I do agree, it would be nice to see an animated sequel that focuses more on the original characters. �From what I recall, Disney's Aladdin was the only animated movie I remember that ended with "the guy getting the girl," and the sequel focusing completely on the original characters (Both Aladdin sequels were really good by the way). Of course, long before WQ came out, I figured that a sequel to Balto would involve something about Balto and Jenna having pups, and the story focusing on one of Balto's offspring. �But, I thought that the writers of WQ did a very poor job of putting this story together. �The whole concept of Aleu finding out who she really was, was pretty good. �But, the movie seemed almost nothing like the original. �It was more "Native American Myth," rather than "The Wild Untamed North." �And there were some aspects of it that were innapropriate. �It never answered some of the questions left over from the first. . . . . . . . . . there was almost no interaction to the townspeople whatsoever, and whats more, Balto was still an outcast despite his heroics. �And the story never fuly explained why this was the case. �Not to mention, the ending could have been better. �And it puzzled me that "Grandma Rosie" did not come back to continue telling the story of her hero to her granddaughter. �I do not feel that the writers were wrong to have focused mainly on Balto's offspring, but they should have placed at least some focus on the original characters to make the story more valid

(quote edited for message reasons! *bows*)
I hope that Jenna returns to her original self (except for her voice, unfortunately) because I think that it would have been nice to see the Jenna that we know and love! I would have loved to see how her interactions with her pups (note: Did anyone else notice that in "Balto 2" the movie mainly showed Balto's interactions with his pups? We all know that she was with them at birth and whenever she didn't have Balto around. What else? . . . Can someone find me an answer?)

Anyway, here is my opinion on the whole "sequels-about-offspring" thing: I think it's pretty obvious mostly. I mean, for most sequels, there's that big ending that screams "SEQUEL!" (examples: TLK : the scene at the end with Simba and Nala's cub completing the "Circle of Life" . . . maybe Bambi: with Bambi and Faline's twins . . . . unfortunately there's a "mid-quel" in the works . . . . Can anyone think of more?) Also, it's obvious that in the sequel with offspring, there are at least some of these "certain qualities" that are included:
1) One of the offspring has traits that are similar to the central character, either by looks, the way they act, or something else (example: Aleu looks more like a wolf (just like Daddy); Kiara (TLK2) is playful like Simba was as a cub; Melody (TLM2) is headstrong like her mother, Ariel; Scamp (L&T2) looks like his dad)
2) The "main" character usually acts more protective to the "outcast" offspring until the climax of the movie when the situation is resolved (major example: Balto is very protective of Aleu, but when she runs away to discover who she really is, it takes him a while to realize that she's allowed to make her own destiny by connecting with the "wolf side")
3) Sometimes, the outcast is a bit of an opposite of the "central" character (TLM2: Melody longs for the sea, while Ariel wants her to stay on land, out of harm's way; L&T2: Scamp wants to be free like his dad was back in the day; TLK2: Kiara doesn't want to become a queen because "it's no fun")
4) The outcast offspring is usually the main character of the sequel that saves the day in some way, shape or form.
5) Sometimes, the chance of another sequel is revealed in the ending (Balto 2 sequel about Aleu would be nice . . . I can picture it already! Currently writing  . . .)
See the obvious things that occur? Weird! (BTW: It would be cool if Jasmine and Aladdin had kids! It's been three movies and a TV series and still no SEX?! What are they thinking? "Let's get it on!")

I liked the spiritual theme to Balto 2. It was much different than any other sequels (even "offspring-sequels"!) and that's what made it cool! It would have been nice to answer some of the unanswered questions and bring some of the old characters back (like the "Trio", Steele, Dixie and Sylvie, Rosy (hope she returns for the third movie!), etc . . .), but the writers suck and made new characters out of the old ones.(The trio=Nuk, Yak and Sumac(the stupidity makes it funny); Steele=Niju (obvious lookalike from the eyes); Balto=Aleu (looks like Daddy, acts heroic like Daddy, must be lighter clone of Daddy!   ))
I hope Rosy does return for the next movie! I'd love to see her as a rebellious teenager who becomes a musher, against her father's wishes! Ooh, so headstrong!! Can you guys picture that?

~rant.over . . . . .for.now . . . . .

83-108302525618 Jul 2004, 20:51 UTC

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Balto=Aleu (looks like Daddy, acts heroic like Daddy, must be lighter clone of Daddy!   ))

I thought Aleu Had Jenna's markings aswell as a touch of Her fur colour, So I wouldn't call Her a clone Seeing Jenna with the Pups more in "Balto 2" would've been a good thing. If Rosy is a Teen in "Balto 3"(She'd have to be at least 16 to be a musher right?) That would make Balto 10. Since He only lived to be 11 would that be a good idea? Even though It would be a cool story . I think that "Balto 3" could begin with Balto comming Home(To Jenna I hope) after having seen Alue off.

115-108568278503 Aug 2004, 07:04 UTC

I have found information on Balto 3 on a...japanese site lol
This is the link

Here's what it says :
   ○★「BALTO III:WING OF CHANG」DVD/VIDEO
   発売日不明 アメリカの映画情報サイトでも、まだ情報が見つけられない�
   実在した狼との混血犬バルトの活躍を、スティーヴン・スピルバーグ製作総指揮で、映画化した、ファミリー・アニメ「バルト」の第3弾。だと思う。バルトとその娘アリュが繰り広げる大冒険を描く動物アニメーション。
   デューク役。出演は他に、寺杣昌紀、藤田淑子、石井真、他。

And the Babelfish translation is:

0 * with either information cannot find "the BALTO III:WING OF CHANG" DVD/VIDEO sale day unclear American movie information sight, yet... mixed race dog Baltic participating of the wolf which exists was filmed, with スティーヴン スピルバーグ production entire direction, family animation "Baltic" 3rd feature. You think that is. The animal animation which draws Baltic and the large venture which the daughter アリュ unfolds. Duke part. As for performance in other things, temple timber forest 昌 period, Fujita 淑 child, Ishii truth and other things.

Not very clear...I'm not sure if there is an important information in this. The only information I understand is that they don't have the release date   Strange that it says "daughter" ?

68-108707261903 Aug 2004, 22:08 UTC

Hmmm... Duke sounds like a male name.  I wonder if that's the name of Balto's kid on the cover.  I don't know exactly.  Thanx for more information, Steetboris!  

84-108767392004 Aug 2004, 00:04 UTC

Man!
� � How do you find this stuff streetboris!? �You've found more info on the new movie in the last month than what I've found since I first heard the rumors about it...and that was almost a year ago! lol
� � Well anyway, I'm not really sure what the message was saying. �Something about an unknown release date for the movie? �Figures. �There was a friend I had in basic training who could speak fluent Japanese. �Haven't seen him since December. �Where's he when I need him.
� � Well anyway, it is yet another something that leads me to be hopeful that the movie is coming soon! �Thanks for the info

115-108568278514 Aug 2004, 15:40 UTC

And this time it is...Russia.
A russian store list Balto 3 in its catalog, HERE

This is a translation of the information on it :

5. BALTO 3
Commentary: PAL/REGION 2 = AN ADVENTURE WITH WINGS =.
Type of the carrier: DVD. Leybl: Universal pictures. Production: Netherlands. Disks: 2. period of the delivery: to 45 days. Probability of the fulfillment: 84%. Date of reliza: 2004-09-30. Bar code: 5050582275476.

If we trust this site, the release date is September 30th, 2004 which would make the Russia the first country to get Balto 3.
But more strange, it is said to be on 2 discs?   I suppose it is an error, I think they mixed up with the B1 & 2 DVD package...

98-109132677015 Aug 2004, 03:06 UTC

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Disks: 2. period of the delivery: to 45 days. Probability of the fulfillment: 84%. Date of reliza: 2004-09-30. Bar code: 5050582275476. But more strange, it is said to be on 2 discs? � I suppose it is an error, I think they mixed up with the B1 & 2 DVD package...

Maybe Russia gets a deluxe version with extra features... �I was wondering why the site would include a "probability of the fulfillment" percentage...

83-106196071615 Aug 2004, 16:20 UTC

Yes, they did.  They got it months in advance.  And those members were nice enough not to spoil anyone about it.

80-109198451815 Aug 2004, 23:28 UTC

Quote (b12wq430 @ Aug. 14 2004,11:06, pm)

Quote (steetboris @ Aug. 14 2004,10:40, am) Disks: 2. period of the delivery: to 45 days. Probability of the fulfillment: 84%. Date of reliza: 2004-09-30. Bar code: 5050582275476. But more strange, it is said to be on 2 discs? � I suppose it is an error, I think they mixed up with the B1 & 2 DVD package... Maybe Russia gets a deluxe version with extra features... �I was wondering why the site would include a "probability of the fulfillment" percentage...

Mmm I think it could be because they are specting too much orders... or something like that

115-108568278516 Aug 2004, 07:40 UTC

This german store will be selling B3; look at this page.
Don't you think strange that there are so many voice actors?   Too bad this isn't the american names...