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Balto 3 cover!

Started by steetboris on 25 Jul 2004, 07:59 UTC · 120 preserved posts

UPDATE : I have added a higher resolution cover for the italian DVD, and the japanese DVD which looks a bit different, and also the german one.

Yes, that's it, it's not very clear but that's probably the best thing I have discovered while looking for information on B3:










or click here for the full article (the same as before)

This looks MUCH better than I hoped! (well, better than previous Balto dvd covers) I suppose the character next to Balto is his son (I didn't imagine him yellow! surprising...), I think there is Boris in the foreground, and a bird or something like that in the sky. Is it just me or is his son really smaller than Balto?

It was on the same site as the italian article, I had to register to the site to access to the pdf file, where it was.
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This looks MUCH better than I hoped! (well, better than previous Balto dvd covers) I suppose the character next to Balto is his son (I didn't imagine him yellow! surprising...), I think there is Boris in the foreground, and a bird or something like that in the sky.

edit: is it just me or is his son really smaller than Balto?

Well done! Very resourceful.

I'm a bit hesitatant to say: yes, the son looks smaller, but it's hard to know if this is an illsuion. How far behind Balto is the other  dog, exactly?  Plus, on the American cover of Wolf Quest, Aleu is shown as much smaller than Balto, despite the fact that at no point in the movie is she actually that sort of size.

Yes, we can safely assume Boris is back, and that probably means Muk and Luk (I think I'm going to find those two very wearying a third time around) I don't think we can assume anything much else: a character not being on the cover doesn't mean anything. I'm still almost positive Jenna will be in it, because Jodi Benson is back (unfortunately)*

Also a relief, though perhaps a premature one, to see no sign of those awful looking dogs from the early artwork.

Yes, from what you can make out, this looks like a better drawn cover than B2.  Of course, this will probably  be the European/Australian cover. The US version will probably be entirely different anyway.

*I only mean unfortunately it's Jodi Benson voicing her.

Loop
Well,this sure makes me wanna hate the idea of a Balto three even more. I know they say never judge a book by its cover but, I have to in this case. Something tells me this one will suck even more then WQ.
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This looks MUCH better than I hoped! (well, better than previous Balto dvd covers) I suppose the character next to Balto is his son (I didn't imagine him yellow! surprising...), I think there is Boris in the foreground, and a bird or something like that in the sky.

edit: is it just me or is his son really smaller than Balto?

Well done! Very resourceful.

I'm a bit hesitatant to say: yes, the son looks smaller, but it's hard to know if this is an illsuion. How far behind Balto is the other �dog, exactly? �Plus, on the American cover of Wolf Quest, Aleu is shown as much smaller than Balto, despite the fact that at no point in the movie is she actually that sort of size.

Yes, we can safely assume Boris is back, and that probably means Muk and Luk (I think I'm going to find those two very wearying a third time around) I don't think we can assume anything much else: a character not being on the cover doesn't mean anything. I'm still almost positive Jenna will be in it, because Jodi Benson is back (unfortunately)*

Also a relief, though perhaps a premature one, to see no sign of those awful looking dogs from the early artwork.

Yes, from what you can make out, this looks like a better drawn cover than B2. �Of course, this will probably �be the European/Australian cover. The US version will probably be entirely different anyway.

*I only mean unfortunately it's Jodi Benson voicing her.

Loop

I like this cover! IMO: it looks better than I had imagined it would! It would be nice if this one was the US cover (cross your fingers and paws!;), but I do have one problem with it. It probably is the answer to why Balto is much bigger than his son (or daughter, from B2) on the cover and yet in the movie (mainly B2) they are the same size. I think the cover designer probably did this to still show that although it's his son/daughter that the story revolves around, it's still HIS story too (That's why his name is on the front cover, duh!;). He's still the main reason why this whole story is here anyway!

Ok . . ..  rant over!

steetboris: I hope that maybe you can get a "back" cover picture too! Maybe translations too (since it'll be in a different language anyway)! Post them here!

One more thing: I clicked the link, but it said I was "Forbidden" to enter the page.

~oh well! . . . . .  :laugh:
Yes, you're probably both right about Balto's son size. Like I said, I  find this cover much more beautiful than the previous ones, but I'm just afraid of one thing: it's a bit too WQ-like, I wanted something different. I really hope the story will not be WQ with Aleu replaced with Balto's son...and by seeing this cover, I can't help but thinking it will be that.
Another thing, we are know sure that this son is not from the same litter...
I don't know, but I guess it will be the same cover for all countries. A strange thing though, the title for WQ was "Balto 2", however this time the title is not "Balto 3" but "Balto III". Yes, that's just a detail :p
Hum...if I had the back cover or more things, be sure I would already have posted them here!  :)
And for the link, my site is currently unavailable, not my fault but my host is having big problems (multimania...). I hope it will not last too long...
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I do have one problem with it. It probably is the answer to why Balto is much bigger than his son (or daughter, from B2) on the cover and yet in the movie (mainly B2) they are the same size. I think the cover designer probably did this to still show that although it's his son/daughter that the story revolves around, it's still HIS story too (That's why his name is on the front cover, duh!;). He's still the main reason why this whole story is here anyway!

While there's every chance you're right, I wouldn't take it to the bank.

Consider: I don't know what the US cover of Lady and the Tramp 2 was like, but the Australian one has Scamp smack in the middle, filling up nearly the whole cover. His mother and father are there in the background, along with the other new characters, but there was no attempt to disguise the fact that this was Scamp's film.

Athough it probably won't happen , there is no reason why Balto's son can't have a significant part in the movie without stealing center stage from Balto. Balto could have the clear lead role. In Wolf Quest, until the halfway point, I think you could say Balto was the lead. It was only in the second half that the film became more and more about Aleu. Perhaps this time they'll give us a film about Balto, featuring his son, rather than a film about Balto's son, with Balto in it.

But, unfortunately, you're probably right.  *sigh*

Loop

ot: yay, Robbie McEwan!
steetboris:

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I really hope the story will not be WQ with Aleu replaced with Balto's son...and by seeing this cover, I can't help but thinking it will be that.


A likely scenario, but let's hope the writers have the nouse to not deliver the same story twice in a row. I've got to believe it's not going to be a carbon copy. Hell, it wouldn't be that hard to come up with something a bit different.

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I don't know, but I guess it will be the same cover for all countries.


Could be. It would be the first time since the original VHS release of Balto 1 though (which BTW I always thought was a  weak cover)

I don't know about Europe, but in Australia the covers/posters to movies are completely different from the US version more often than not. A bit less common with animated movies, but the Australian cover of the VHS of Oliver and Company for instance was totally different than the US one, or the Australian DVD version. I was actually surprised when Balto first came out in Australia that it did have the same cover/poster as the US version.

Loop
This is really odd. �Everyone is assuming the smaller "wolf" behind Balto is his son. �Wasn't Aleu the only pup of the litter that looked like a wolf? �Or have Balto and Jenna been busy again? � :D

And the background looks very much like Balto is still in the area where he said goodbye to Aleu...
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This is really odd.  Everyone is assuming the smaller "wolf" behind Balto is his son.  Wasn't Aleu the only pup of the litter that looked like a wolf?  Or have Balto and Jenna been busy again?   :D

I think that's the most obvious scenario. All of the other pups from the first litter had been adopted anyway. Not that that prevents them from being involved in the story I suppose.

Consider: we know Balto's son has a speaking part in the film, we know that animated sequels are almost invariably about offspring (no, not the band, though that would be interesting I suppose), and there's a juvenile looking canine in the pic. I think we're jumping to the most likely conclusion.

Loop
He looks more like a dog than a wolf, to me...And another litter, yes it seems to be that, I'm not surprised because all the puppies from the first looked the same except Aleu.
Isn't it supposed to take place in winter? Then why is there water instead of snow?
Another thing that make me think of WQ, is : I have the impression Balto is following this bird or whatever it is, he is looking at it like the raven in WQ. And I'm sure this is the "wings" from the title...
As for the covers, we will see if they change it for the US or not, but I don't really understand why they don't keep the same for all countries; there isn't a cultural gap between US and Europe/Australia, as much as between US and Japan. (uh...do you understand what I wrote there?  :D )
In my opinion, that cover is friggin awesome!  Balto looks wonderful, I hope he looks that good in the movie!  I deeply wish that it was clearer, and it's making me deathly curious to see what the Region 1 cover will be like(I don't hate the WQ cover, as many people do.  Of course it could have been better, but oh well).
*squints at the picture* ...is that a plane in the background? That might show that there's a little more human interaction in this movie than in WQ hopefully. Hunters, maybe? I dunno...
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Isn't it supposed to take place in winter? Then why is there water instead of snow?


Maybe it takes place in winter in Utah.

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Another thing that make me think of WQ, is : I have the impression Balto is following this bird or whatever it is, he is looking at it like the raven in WQ. And I'm sure this is the "wings" from the title...


Yeah, you could be right, but I don't see that this is nescessarily a disaster. I'd sooner they hadn't done the spirit stuff  in Wolf Quest, but it would be difficult to ditch it completely now. It depends on how they handle it. Subtly applied it could be ok. Just so long as everything doesn't start disappearing in puffs of smoke again.

Here's a question BTW: what are they going to do for a strong female character in this film? No Aleu, and a voice actor who makes Jenna sound about as gung-ho as Doris Day. I sure hope it doesn't turn out to be that dog in the drawings that looks like a Blancmange.

NB  I think that thing looks more like a plane that a bird, too.

Loop
I'm going to hold back on really commenting on the cover, though it does look pretty decent. The only thing I do have to say is Balto's son should be a bigger; unless the date/time the movie takes place in is before Alue ran off.
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I'm still believing this is a bird and not a plane, even if it would be cool and original if it is really a plane; perhaps wa should make a poll on this  :laugh:
I'm not sure, but I think there is another character in the background, at the right...or is it just a water effect? Well, there are a good amount of details in this cover, so this can only be a good sign for the movie. And another good sign is, nearly everybody here seems to like this cover  ;)

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The only thing I do have to say is Balto's son should be a bigger; unless the date/time the movie takes place in is before Alue ran off.

That's why I said he's probably from another litter. Besides, no puppies had this fur color.
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I'm still believing this is a bird and not a plane, even if it would be cool and original if it is really a plane; perhaps wa should make a poll on this  :laugh:

Well, I'll tell you why I thought it was more likely a plane.  I assumed it was in the background, some distance behind them, and that Balto is just looking ahead, his gaze out of the picture, so to speak. In that case it looks to me like a bi-plane in the middle distance - which would be right considering this was the 1920's.

However, looking at it again, I can see how the object could be in the foreground, and Balto is looking right at it. In that case it's obviously something a lot smaller, so yes, probably a bird.

I hope he's not actually looking up at it. I much prefer the idea of him looking intrepidly ahead to the idea of him chasing after an arctic tern or something.


Loop - who doesn't think he's ever analyzed a fuzzy looking video cover in quite this much detail before.
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it looks to me like a bi-plane in the middle distance - which would be right considering this was the 1920's.


Now that you say it...I also come to think it is really a plane. You have a really good point on this, I almost forgot Balto took place at this period (shame on me! ) That's becoming very interesting...
And, I don't think I have ever made so much speculation on a single thing, either... :D
there are two streaks of grey that are evenly separated, so it should be a bi-plane, unless the arctic tern had 4 wings O_o...
O.K. so Baltos' son in "Balto 3" isn't the Masked Pup from "Balto 2", But(Most likely)from a new litter. Not realy a problem. As for Him being Yellow, Well maybe One of Jenna's Parents was Yellow  ???  I would say it's a Bi-Plane in the background. This is a cool cover :cool:  I hope the U.S. gets It. Jenna could be a strong Character. Jodie Benson can put more I'm not sure how to phrase this voice in Her voice(Though I too would have liked to have Bridget Fonda return). I'm trying not to get to worked up, But after seeing the cover I just can't wait for "Balto 3". So Thank You steelboris(And I mean that in a good way :D )
OMG!  I can't wait for Balto 3 now.  It's getting so close for it to come out!  I wish that there was a trailer on the internet!  But, I can wait.. Impatiently, really.

Yes, Balto's son looks small but, I reserched that pups are 90% grown in the first year.  So, he has to grow a little bit more.

Jodi Benson is a hyperacting lassie.  She wants to play any character she can get her paws on.  I don't like her very much because of her shaky voice.  

Yours,
Dayami_Silver_Wolf
From what I can make out in the details, the cover looks nice.  In fact, it's a bit better than what I was expecting.  At least we don't have to put up with an entirely new style or anything like that.  Although the pup behind Balto makes me curious.  I wonder if Balto and Jenna did have a new litter, or did they do some character design changes between the films...

Also, I'm going to assume Alue was smaller than Balto on the region 1 WQ cover because she was just a young puppy.  I'm not sure if anyone else got that impression though.  Meh.
Very interesting! Looks better than I expected...

Perhaps someone already mentioned this, (To tired to read all of the comments here. @_@) but the 'pup' behind Balto looks more like it'd be Kaltag's son. �:Oo: *Looks suspiciously @ Jenna* Hrmmm... ???
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Perhaps someone already mentioned this, (To tired to read all of the comments here. @_@) but the 'pup' behind Balto looks more like it'd be Kaltag's son.  :Oo: *Looks suspiciously @ Jenna* Hrmmm...

:laugh: lol Hybrid! No, nobody mentioned that, I think that's just his color; we will need a less blurry picture to check this...
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Although the pup behind Balto makes me curious.  I wonder if Balto and Jenna did have a new litter, or did they do some character design changes between the films...

We know all the pups in the first litter were red, except Aleu, who was grey. So how you get a yellow one this time is curious. As I said before, I think it'd actually be interesting if the kid was the result of a liaison between Balto and someone else, though that's probably too radical. If this is Jenna's puppy, Jenna had  better have a more substantial role than last time, otherwise she's just being reduced to producing pupppies for the sequels.

Of course I'm torn the other way too, because Jodie Benson was so awful as Jenna that if she does that voice again I'd rather she didn't have a major role. I don't know much about Benson, so maybe it was the voice coach's fault, but somebody needs to  play her the first movie a few times.

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Also, I'm going to assume Alue was smaller than Balto on the region 1 WQ cover because she was just a young puppy.  I'm not sure if anyone else got that impression though.  Meh.


Aleu was never that size in the movie, though. At the start she was a very small puppy, and then it jumped to where she was  full grown. The cover pic is just sloppy design, IMO.

Loop
That is very cool! Wow i like!
Yeah it looks good. Hopefully it won't be as quick as Balto 2. I really liked it but it seemed to be too short for me
Kaltag's boy? hmm.. maybe the pup was adopted. I know it says son in the description. but Scar "supposedly" adopted Kovu in TLK 2 . *shrugs* :Oo:
This one looks a lot more promising than B2, shame they aren't using the original style of writing for the title though.
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maybe the pup was adopted.

That could be, But I still think that One of Jenna's Parents could have been yellow
I wouldn't really say he looks yellow but more of a brownish color; or whatever color you'd get if you were to mix red with grey.
Wow!
� � Well done streetboris. �You've certainly done a great deal of commendable research on this new film. �This is by far the most exciting news I've heard about it to date!
� � After all these rumors and discussions, it's great to finally have something concrete to look at. �I can't wait for it to come out, now! *wags tail in excitement* �So, looks like the film is coming to Europe first. �Not too surprising, but I hope there won't be a big delay in bringing it to the U.S.
� � I think the cover looks great! �From what I can make out of the picture, the drawings look beautiful. �The characters seem to be much better looking than they did in WQ. �It's kinda' hard to make out some of the things that are there, but I'm most puzzled by the dog standing next to Balto. �It was mentioned before that Jenna did not have any yellow pups in the litter in WQ, or even anything remotely close to yellow. �So, it could be that they had another litter. �I could also believe any of the other theories that were mentioned before. �Heck, maybe the story is not about Balto's son at all! ??? �Could it be another dog/wolf that somehow became associated with Balto in time? �Just a thought. �When I first saw that image over Balto's head, it struck me as an airplane in the distance. �I guess it could be a bird, but to me, it's general shape seems more like a plane from that time period. �It would be interesting if an airplane could have enough significance in the plot to be on the cover. �If you look at it closely, it almost looks like a mini-plane that is in the immediate foreground rather than in the distance. �If it really is that close up, I guess it would have to be a bird. �Guess we'll see.
� � The setting itself strikes me most as springtime, since there is a little snow in the picture, and quite a bit of water (i.e. snow melting). �A little dissapointing, as I was hoping for a more winter-like theme to be brought back. �It will probably be more like WQ. �Oh, well. �In any case, it looks really cool. �Can't wait!
� � Oh and, I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't stand Jodi Benson as the voice of Jenna. :p
You know . . . I just thought about something . . .

What if the "yellow dog" behind Balto isn't really his son? What if it is one of Aleu's children?
I mean, think about it: For one thing, the pup has Aleu's similarities, mainly in the looks department! For another thing, Aleu had a bit of a light-colored coat! So did Nava . . . . (So are you saying that Nava and Aleu . . . . . nope! That's just gross and wrong . . . There's no way that could happen since he stayed on land!;) But there may have been a new wolf or husky that may have a yellowish colored coat to help spread those yellowish-colored genes to this pup behind Balto . . . .

Hey, who knows? It might be the most sanest thing that anyone could think of to solve this mystery!

~just a thought . . .
I don't know how you do it steetboris, but keep it up.  ;)

I am extremely happy with this cover (from what I can see anyway). I believe that the thing in the upper right-hand corner is a plane. If you look closely, there are two parallel lines that appear to be the wings of a biplane. Of course this is only speculation as the picture is very unclear, but that's what I presume it to be.
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If you look at it closely, it almost looks like a mini-plane that is in the immediate foreground rather than in the distance.  If it really is that close up, I guess it would have to be a bird.  Guess we'll see.

Well, it must really be a plane since it is what most people see at the first look. However it's not enough clear to see if it's in the foreground or background...
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What if the "yellow dog" behind Balto isn't really his son? What if it is one of Aleu's children?

I'm still sticking with Balto & Jenna having another litter. But it could as well be Balto's brother  :p (jock) We'll just have to see!
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I'm still sticking with Balto & Jenna having another litter. But it could as well be Balto's brother  :p (jock)

Balto's brother Jock, played by Billy Connolly. That could work...

Loop
Uh...actually I meant that this was a joke lol! Sorry for mispelling  :p
Well, I think we have turned around the question, we can't see more things from this blurry cover. If anyone sees something that wasn't told in previous messages, post!  :)
Billy Connolly should have voiced the little scotty dog in B2 lol.

Just because that dog looks like Aleu doesn't mean it will be one of Aleus pups.. remember Aleu came from Balto and Jenna so their combination of genes can produce a pup of that colour. The fact that is looks like Aleu isn't surprising and a bit lazy too on the character designs. Would be better to see a completely new character
I would also be willing to bet that the cover artist and character developers are probably not experts in genetics.

  "You can't have a yellow pup. All the pups from the first litter were red or grey."

  "Yeah, but this could be a recessive gene."

  "I don't think so. Not in wolves."

  "Sure it could. Plus if you interbreed dogs at random, after about 13 generations they'll all be yellowish brown, like dingos."

  "Yeah, well Dingo was one of the pups in the first litter, and he was red."

  "Well, he could have turned yellow later, like those horses."

  "What horses?"

  "Those ones that start out black, and then turn white."

  "Andalusians?"  * scratches head*  "Yeah, but they're Spanish, aren't they. Wouldn't they have black hair?"

  "Give him black hair then if it makes you happy."

  "He's not Spanish."

  "We could make him Spanish."

  "No. that's stupid.  Why don't we make hiim Chinese?  There were Chinese people in Alaska."

  "And what... one of them is this guy's mother?"

  "Well Jenna is a Siberian Husky, isn't she?"

  "That doesn't mean one of her parents was a guy from Siberia."

  "He could have been."

  "I want you to think very carefully before you answer.....   How likely is that?"

  "Look, it's nearly 5 O'clock. Is he yellow or not?"

  "Oh, alright."


Loop
lol,
� � That's a pretty comical theory, Loop. �I could so picture an argument like that. :laugh:
� � Okay, we're beginning to think a little too hard about this topic...bringing the idea of genetics into this. �I don't think that the creators would go to that extent to justify bringing a yellow pup into the mix when they could easily paint him another color. �All we really can conclude though is that this character was probably not from the original litter.
� � I like the idea of it maybe being Aleu's child. �Better than it being part of yet another litter. �Two animated personified animals having more than one set of children sounds a little too...I don't know. �Out there? �I don't ever remember that happening in any other cartoon film. �But, if the creators can make it work, all the power to them.
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� "Well, he could have turned yellow later, like those horses."

� "What horses?"

� "Those ones that start out black, and then turn white."

� "Andalusians?" �

Actually, other breed of horse, the Lipizaner (spell check!;), an Austrian breed of performance horse, is born either black or brownish colored and changes to white-grey when it grows older.

Anyway, I still think it may be one of Aleu's children, curious about his famous grandfather!

Maybe he wants to be more like a hybrid instead of more like a wolf (like his mom). Or maybe he wants to be a friggin' sled dog like his husky grandmother!

Who knows!

Just a thought . . . .
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 Two animated personified animals having more than one set of children sounds a little too...I don't know.  Out there?  I don't ever remember that happening in any other cartoon film.

Yes if Balto And Jenna have another Litter that would be a cartoon first. I doin't think the Pup behind Balto is Aleu's Son. How would he have goten back to Alaska from Russia? To Me the only Theory That makes since is that Balto and Jenna have another Litter. A breeding pair of Dogs can produce More than One Litter so that idea dosen't seem to far out to Me
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Theory That makes since is that Balto and Jenna have another Litter. A breeding pair of Dogs can produse More than One Litter so that idea dosen't seem to far out to Me


That is a very good idea. But by looking at the picture you can't really work out his age. Perhaps he is Balto's father
After the son, the brother, now this is the father  :D
No, to my mind it can't be Aleu's son, since in the interview the writers said "Balto's son". And I really don't think the story writers would make such a mistake. So, the most logical would be Balto & Jenna having a litter...again. ???
Or it could be Balto's "son-in-law" . . . . . .

Ooh . . . . .

Makes ya think, huh?

Oh, one more thing. To SimbasGuard: Aleu is not in Russia. Nome is close to Russia, but I think her pack is more in the southern Alaskan islands, not in Russia.

Besides, if she went to Russia, Boris would probably be there (He belongs there . . . but the wolves would probably beat him up . . . .LOL).
Yeah, I'm not convinced Aleu's pack went to Russia. A minimum of 86 km's on a small iceberg is possible I guess... I can almost believe that - but then you'd also have to believe that they were following a herd of caribou who got there by hopping from one chunk of ice to another, so I'm more inclined to think she's still somewhere Alaskan.  Again this is probaby intorudcing too much reality into things, though.

As a matter of interest - remember that ship that went down off Alaska with the thousands of rubber ducks on board in 1992? Some of them went South, but some went north, and they projected that any which got up into the Bering Sea would probably be swept north into the Arctic Ocean, and eventually end up in England and Norway around about now. I don't know if any of them made it.

Loop
To Juuchan 17 and Loop: Balto and Aleu left Nome before They met the Pack so We don't know where in Alaska Alue and The Pack left from. So They could be in Russia. Besides They needed to go somewhere Alue could meet other Wolves(I don't think She would be able to find a Mate in Her Pack :laugh: ). Are there Wolves on the Aleuten Islands? I doint know. ???
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Besides They needed to go somewhere Alue could meet other Wolves(I don't think She would be able to find a Mate in Her Pack :laugh: ).

Why not? I'd have thought that was the obvious place to find one.

Loop
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Why not? I'd have thought that was the obvious place to find one.

Loop

It seemd to Me that the wolves in Her Pack were all Her Father's age, But I guess that dosen't matter to a Wolf. I just can't see Her with Nuk, Yak. Or Sumac :laugh:
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I just can't see Her with Nuk, Yak. Or Sumac :laugh:

Thanks - I really needed that image!   :O

Seriously, I assumed there were some eligible looking wolves in that pack. I don't know how old they were, but you'd probably have thought Aleu was as old as the rest of them if you didn't know the background anyway. She was basically the new alpha, so she would pretty well have to hit on... err, pick someone I guess. Of course that means that pack is never going to be pure wolf anymore.

Loop
Well, some of the wolves in that pack actually looked pretty cool to me, :) . On top of that, it's possible that the caribou might eventually migrate back to the old land if the place across the icebergs was an island *nods to himself in agreement*. Then that means the wolves coming back and possibly befriending more wolves into the pack...

just my two cents
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Thanks - I really needed that image!   :O

Sorry about that loop :laugh:  Both You and Beo have good points. I just think Aleu shoud have a Mate Who has been characterised. Not just a trophy Husband in the Background :laugh:
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hmm.. maybe the pup was adopted. I know it says son in the description. but Scar "supposedly" adopted Kovu in TLK 2 . *shrugs* :Oo:

I don't know why I missed that post, but I think it would work : that would explain his color, and in that case he would not come from another litter. And the writers would still call him "Balto's son". And it would make the story so much interesting...I hope it's really that!:laugh:
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This one looks a lot more promising than B2, shame they aren't using the original style of writing for the title though.

I disagree on this, I have compared the original style and the one on the cover and they look the same; not exactly the same but much more near than the old style on the previous Region 2 covers.
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hmm.. maybe the pup was adopted. I know it says son in the description. but Scar "supposedly" adopted Kovu in TLK 2 . *shrugs* :Oo:

I don't know why I missed that post, but I think it would work : that would explain his color, and in that case he would not come from another litter. And the writers would still call him "Balto's son". And it would make the story so much interesting...I hope it's really that!:laugh:

Yeah, that would be cool!

Balto finds a stray pup (probably a runt that no one wanted) and decides to raise him as his own.

That would be a nice story! It would probably remind him of his own past, when he was forgotten as a pup, and then raised by Boris.
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Balto finds a stray pup (probably a runt that no one wanted) and decides to raise him as his own.

The more I think about it the more I think it could work. Starlioness You may have been on to something :cool: And Thank You Juuchan 17 for putting the Idea in a way that made Me see how it could work :cool:
I like the idea much more than I do the idea of there being another litter, but just because it[s a good idea doesn't mean it's what they'll gpo with. My money's still on this being Balto's biological son.]

One reason I don't like the 'new litter' thing is that every film is adding at least a year to Balto's age. I don't know how old he was supposed to be in the first movie, but I hope it was 2 or something, otherwise he's going to be getting rickety if they keep making sequels with a year between them.

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It can also be Balto's natural son, which fur color is messed up. After all, they colored Jenna in brown on the Region 1 DVD...

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One reason I don't like the 'new litter' thing is that every film is adding at least a year to Balto's age. I don't know how old he was supposed to be in the first movie, but I hope it was 2 or something, otherwise he's going to be getting rickety if they keep making sequels with a year between them.


If Universal really cared about that, then the dinosaurs from Land before time would be pretty old now... :D
Oh, and for the thing in the sky, it is really a plane...I can't tell you why, but there are clues leading to this...
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It can also be Balto's natural son, which fur color is messed up. After all, they colored Jenna in brown on the Region 1 DVD...

Good point steelboris. Oh and it is Because Those little Dinosaurs are stll little that The Land Before Time lost It's Magic(well O.K. It's part of the Reason :laugh: ). To loop: The real Balto was 3 When He made The Serum Run. So I think it's safe to assume that the animated Balto was 3 in the first movie as well
The cover looks great! :D
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Oh, and for the thing in the sky, it is really a plane...I can't tell you why, but there are clues leading to this...

I know obvious clues if you won't tell why:

1: Time period: Hello? If anyone still remembers that the first movie took place in 1925, then I think you know that this one is probably occurring in the late 1920s (my guess: 1929. Two words: Great Depression).
2: This is Alaska we're talking about! The only ways to travel is either: walk/dog-sled, boat, train, or . . . . you guessed it: PLANE!

'nuff said . . . . . . .

I think you're right, steetboris! It's most likely a friggin' plane!

About the whole "How-old-is-Balto-in-the-movies" question:
I think Balto was probably about 3 in the first one, but he looked a bit shaggier in the second (at least five or six by the end of the movie) and a bit older than usual. Note: In the second movie, a year passed during the movie when Aleu grew up. Boris said it himself that since Aleu was "more than one year old", she should have her own home by then.

It would be cool if Jenna gave birth to puppies while Balto was returning from the ending scene in Balto 2. Instant Daddy!

~ . . . . .  ???
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It would be cool if Jenna gave birth to puppies while Balto was returning from the ending scene in Balto 2. Instant Daddy!

That would be cool :cool: You're right about the timeline too I had forgot that a Year had past during "Balto 2" so that would make Balto 5 when He said good-bye to Aleu. As long as We're guessing what Year "Balto 3" will be set I'll say 1928, Because I doin't think Universal would want more than a Year to pass between sequels. Dose Anyone think Muck and Luck will be older in "Balto 3"?
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I know obvious clues if you won't tell why:

1: Time period: Hello? If anyone still remembers that the first movie took place in 1925, then I think you know that this one is probably occurring in the late 1920s (my guess: 1929. Two words: Great Depression).
2: This is Alaska we're talking about! The only ways to travel is either: walk/dog-sled, boat, train, or . . . . you guessed it: PLANE!

This is not the clues I was thinking about, but it's leading to this way too.

As I said, you will not notice any age difference in the movie, cartoons characters rarely become old. If you look at the cover, Balto seems nearly younger than in B2...
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cartoons characters rarely become old. If you look at the cover, Balto seems nearly younger than in B2...

Good Point. On the cover of My "Balto 2" DVD I'd say He looks older if aged at all
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Dose Anyone think Muck and Luck will be older in "Balto 3"?

I doubt it . . . . . I mean, look at it this way:
In the first movie, Muk and Luk were polar bear cubs. In the scene in the sequel when they were playing with a now one-year old Aleu, they pretty much looked the same as they did in the original!
In conclusion: If Muk and Luk DID return for the third movie (which they probably will), they would be almost like the LBT dinos. Never aging, looking exactly the same for the past 3 years (in movie times of course!;), almost like in the story "Tuck Everlasting" . . . . . . . .

Can someone just kill them off? Please? They are the worst comic relief in the sequel! (That's bad!;)
Well, since they've been in both movies, universal has to have a reason to kill them off....join a polar bear group, maybe? (whatever a pack of polar bears are called) *shrugs* i dunno...
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they would be almost like the LBT dinos. Never aging, looking exactly the same for the past 3 years (in movie times of course!;), almost like in the story "Tuck Everlasting" . . . . . . . .

That was a dumb question on My part. I think Your Right about Their age
If you haven't noticed yet, I have updated the topic with a higher resolution cover of B3 DVD. (see the first page of this topic) And it looks even nicer than I thought!  :)
Now we are sure this is a plane in the background, and I believe there are Muk & Luk on the right, covered by snow?
Another thing, the son looks cute, his eyes look a bit messed up though.
The only disappointing thing I can say about this cover, is that Balto has white eyes again, so it will probably the same in the film. He looked better with yellow eyes, I think. Oh well, after all that's just a detail.
Yeah, but it's those small details that some people pick out and gripe about whenever the movie is shown. Anyway, it's great to see the cover in a lot better resolution than the others...
Thank You steelboris :D  I hope This turns out to be the U.S. cover as well. I also wish Balto's Eyes were Yellow. It was one thing that bugged Me about "Balto 2", But oh well no big deal :)
Mmm, in fact I'm sure he will have yellow eyes again in the film now, just don't ask me why lol  :D
TBL users, there's something for you in the photos sections  :)
Yes Balto's eyes are definately yellow, we all got proof last night.
I guess the animators did learn a few tricks this time around.  That's definitely good to know. *nods*
Wow..this looks like a HUGE Improvement over B2...Thanks for sharing those pics..now I definitly have to check this one out when its avalible ...
Hey everyone!

I took a closer look at the better cover of B3 and I noticed something:
Balto's "son" (now named "Kodi" (read the B3 details thread)) looks more like Aleu! Check the markings on the face, then compare to Aleu's in the first sequel.
What's up with that? Also his color looks more like Balto's instead of that yellowish color. Thank God!

Look close to see what I mean!

Oh, and the pics are very nice! Thanks a lot, steetboris!! You rock!
What I noticed is that on one of the B3 screenshots of the team running, the last dogs kinda look like Nikki and Star
I was thinking about this since they made balto 2 WQ!
In balto 2 WQ they didn't have much of Jenna right so what if they don't have Jenna in Balto 3 WoC!
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Yes Balto's eyes are definately yellow, we all got proof last night.

I was that day.... also what Ac was saying its true, the last dogs looks too much like Nikki and Star
Jodi benson is back, so there is definately Jenna in it. But she'll probably won't have an important part in it either.
And actually, Balto's son is from the same litter as the one in WQ.
I also think the trio will be back, even if I can't really see them on the picture, but if it's more sledding oriented this time, they HAD to make them return...
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I guess the animators did learn a few tricks this time around.  That's definitely good to know. *nods*

That, or perhaps Universal put a higher budget on it, since WQ exceeded their expectations... :)
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Yes Balto's eyes are definately yellow

ALL RIGHT :D *Roars with excitement* :cool:  Uh steelboris how can Kodi be One of Aleu's Littermates? Alue was the only Gray/Brown Furred Pup. Is "Balto 2' going to be Ignored?
That's simple : it's because Balto's son won't probably be yellow in the film. Look at this cover, it's from the netherland DVD:
here, it looks much more like the japanese cover.
Thank You steelboris :D That cover makes Kodi look more like One of the Jenna clones(And I mean that in a good way  :D )
I really like that last one that was posted..,I really hope that our covers will look that cool..just as I hope to see a great production to go under those covers...

(PS- Wow! 300 posts and I haven't even been around here a entire year yet**September 2**will be one year..GO ME!)
Steetboris you are awesome at researching on balto 3 wings of Change.
I also asked my video store today on a release date for Canada but they had nothing.
Wow...the cover looks awesome! Better than many. Is there any information though, on when Balto 3 comes out? *can't wait*
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Wow...the cover looks awesome! Better than many. Is there any information though, on when Balto 3 comes out? *can't wait*

I also Can't wait, but i will have to =P For sure we will get the movie some months later than the rest of you =P (I Live in Argentina)
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Is there any information though, on when Balto 3 comes out? *can't wait*
Just read the Balto 3 page on The ice Cave or on my site  :)  No US/Canada release date yet, but there are dates for a lot of european countries.
And Policho, I'm sure you'll be able to get it on emule before buying it for real  :p
I no theres already some thing like this on the first post but I just found this picture
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/Silverfox364/balto3.bmp
I reckon it looks pretty cool.^^
-squirms around- -tries to fast forward time by pressing a shiny red button- Darn. Hopefully the Italian cover with be for the US, but most likely not. The forgein (I didn't spell that right...) always have better DVD/VHS covers. -crosses arms- -pouts- Not fair..not fair..
hehe....you are indeed correct, Alsatia....all the other countries seem to get the better looking covers than the US...I wonder why that is.... ???
I'm not sure if anybody's seen this, but this seems to be a very clear picture! �It's in Italian, I think...


http://www.valentinavideo.com/rivenditori/catalogo/balto3.jpg
Good finds, b12wq430! You were faster than me, this time  :D
So I think there is already two different covers for it : one where the son is yellow (italy, australia) and one where he looks more like the pups from the litter (japan, netherland)
I prefer the italy one, the colors are more beautiful even if they're not accurate to the film; I hope we'll get this one in france  :p
Wow! Kool cover b12wq430. I can now see that the weird white thing in the background is Muk and Luk :D It doesn't look good for Jenna :Oo:
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Good finds, b12wq430! You were faster than me, this time �:D
So I think there is already two different covers for it : one where the son is yellow (italy, australia) and one where he looks more like the pups from the litter (japan, netherland)
I prefer the italy one, the colors are more beautiful even if they're not accurate to the film; I hope we'll get this one in france �:p

Thanks, steetboris! �You do a lot of great work, too. �I see what you mean about the differences in the pup's color. �There are even more differences in the background- ie color of trees, the mountains, even Balto's fur color is different, not to mention the title, since one has the III and one doesn't!

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It doesn't look good for Jenna

Well, don't give up hope yet, Silverfox, since Jenna wasn't on the cover for WQ either, but yet she was still in the movie. �I guess this is the same thing that they are doing for B3, since Jodi Benson is making a comeback.
Argh, not Muk & Luk! I really hope they have Jenna in it!:(
Jenna will definitly be in it. How big Her part will be I have no idea
Not big, I'm afraid. She will definitely not get a major role in this one, once again, since she's not on the cover nor on any summary for the scenario. But at least we're sure she will make an appearance. In fact, I prefer that they don't show her rather than making a different Jenna as it was the case in WQ...
She'll definately make an appearance...on one link someone posted (Prolly you, Steeboris) it had the voice talents or the characters, and Jenna was listed. only wish they'd kept the same voices since Balto 1...V__V
Hmmm....indeed....I saw this pic at the Wolf forums....hehe, you're right, I think it is italian.

Hehe....there's no way that Universal coulda conned Kevin Bacon, Bridget Fonda, Phil Collins, or Bob Koskins to do sequals.....especially if those sequals are entirely unrelated to the original. Hehe....all of them are big stars in the movie biz....so I find it unlikely that they'd do it. But, even if they wanted to....odds are that Universal could not afford to use them. Because they are all big names means that they will be expensive to have for voice actors. It sucks, but it's they way things go, I'm afraid.
my theory on the pup is, he could be another balto, kinda like a half breed and balto could be teaching him the ropes. but i've just found out about WoC and everyone is saying it's his son, but that could be a rumor. alas, i could be wrong about him being a half breed or even another wolf.
it's just that, all of the pups looked like jenna (minus aleu) and this new pup (i heard his name was codi) looks more like a wolf.  oh well, time will tell i guess.
Here's my opinion on Kodi:
I think he is either: 1) Balto and Jenna's son from a new litter; 2) one of the five "Jenna-clones" shown in B2; or 3) a stray wolf-dog pup that Balto and the gang adopt because nobody wants him.

Ookami: I like your idea about Kodi being a hybrid that's teaching Balto, but it seems pretty weird, dontcha think? I mean, Balto is an old timer, but Kodi could be showing him how to have a good time.

:Oo:  no, not in THAT sense . . . .
*Yeah, Balto ditches Jenna for another dog that gives him pleasure in the winter . . . .
oy, bad thoughts!

Actually, Kodi couldn't be one of the pups from the first litter. His coat looks almost like Balto's and Aleu's. Even though he has Jenna's markings yet a wolf-like look.

I think the stray pup scenario is best!  :)
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And Policho, I'm sure you'll be able to get it on emule before buying it for real �:p

Dont remind me about e-mule... because I hate it xd I download Balto 3 times, the first was Italian, the second Traditional Spanish (which sux) and the third some strange language xD
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Here's my opinion on Kodi:
I think he is either: 1) Balto and Jenna's son from a new litter; 2) one of the five "Jenna-clones" shown in B2; or 3) a stray wolf-dog pup that Balto and the gang adopt because nobody wants him.

Answer 2. Sorry if it disappoints you, but he is definately from the same litter as in B2. The colors of the italian cover are messed up, but if you look at the other cover (the japanase or netherland one, I've updated the first page  :)  ) he looks really like Jenna or one of the pups from WQ.

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Dont remind me about e-mule... because I hate it xd I download Balto 3 times, the first was Italian, the second Traditional Spanish (which sux) and the third some strange language xD


So your spanish is different? Well, it shouldn't really surprise me...Then I can't see another solution than buying the argentinian (sp?) vhs or dvd...When B3 will come out in your country, perhaps not in a much long time, then I'm sure you will easily be able to find B1 and/or B2.
I was thinking that if it isn't long before the film comes out in some places and now the big un-blured cover has come out, Baltos son has been named and lots of infomation has been given about it I was think that a Trailer could come really soon!
That's not sure, don't forget it will not come out in the USA until a few months and I've rarely seen trailers for direct-to-videos movies on european sites...Perhaps a trailer will be available on the LBT 10 dvd? (it comes out in september in most countries)
i'll make sure to rent it and find out....wait i thought they already HAD a 10
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Here's my opinion on Kodi:
I think he is either: 1) Balto and Jenna's son from a new litter; 2) one of the five "Jenna-clones" shown in B2; or 3) a stray wolf-dog pup that Balto and the gang adopt because nobody wants him.

Answer 2. Sorry if it disappoints you, but he is definately from the same litter as in B2. The colors of the italian cover are messed up, but if you look at the other cover (the japanase or netherland one, I've updated the first page �:) �) he looks really like Jenna or one of the pups from WQ.

I can't see the resemblence in any of the Jenna-clones and Kodi. It must be a new pup of some sorts. If you can show me any proof (or at least a picture) of any similarities, that would be nice. That goes for anyone, including you, steetboris!

I mean, think about it, that summary of the basic scenario of B3 said nothing on the fact that Kodi is indeed one of the "Jenna-clones" from B2. As I stated before, the colors are mainly off if he is a Jenna-clone. He looks more of a mix of Balto and Aleu's colors to me! His markings are indeed typical for a Jenna-clone, but the colors don't match any of the original clones from the first sequel. But he does look as wolfish as his "dad" (note the quotes, he may not be his true son, or is he?)

I'd like this to be solved soon! Is Kodi one of the original Jenna-clones or is he a new pup in his own movie, like Aleu was in Wolf Quest?

(edit): Well, now that I see a picture with all of the pups from the litter, Kodi only has a slight resemblence to one of the pups. Just a slight one, mind you.
(I think the darkest pup is the best bet of Jenna's litter that could be Kodi. See the picture yourself on steetboris' site. Look on the picture of the pups dogpiling Boris. You can see all of them and from the looks of the darker cover (Dutch?), Kodi looks a bit reddish, so the darker pup in B2 could be the Kode-meister! Note I said "could" not "is".)
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Perhaps a trailer will be available on the LBT 10 dvd?

Uh steelboris did You mean Land Before Time 11? Because I saw Land Before Time 10, And their was no "Balto 3" trailer.
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If you can show me any proof (or at least a picture) of any similarities, that would be nice. That goes for anyone, including you, steetboris!

Well, let's just say that it is also one of the things that the associate producer told us, with his name...
And, I meant LBT 10, but the european release! It will be released here nearly a year after the USA...and a month or two before the release of B3 in every country. AND there is the trailer for LBT 10 on the B3 DVD, so why not the contrary?
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If you can show me any proof (or at least a picture) of any similarities, that would be nice. That goes for anyone, including you, steetboris!

Well, let's just say that it is also one of the things that the associate producer told us, with his name...

But it's not official yet, is it? So far, I haven't heard or seen any proof that Kodi is one of the original six pups (We only know of Aleu (duh), Dingo, and Saba, if you read the credits right). Nobody's said anything true about that yet, not even the summary!

In other words, no one knows the truth yet, not even you!

(sorry to say that, but it's the truth! I've heard both rumors, but nothing official is out yet (that I've read . . .))

BTW: who is "us?" I wasn't told anything! I'd just wait for the movie to be released first. Then the truth will be revealed!

:ghostface:
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I meant LBT 10, but the european release!  AND there is the trailer for LBT 10 on the B3 DVD, so why not the contrary?

Oh You're problably right then. Europe had to wait a Year for Land Before Time 10  :O  That just seems wrong to Me. Considering that it was actualy good. I hope We :unclesam:  don't have to wait that long for "Balto 3"(God Forbid)
I wondered why I haden't seen LBT 10 in the shops :D

EDIT: I just found out it comes out on the 6th of September here in the UK...If any ones intrested.
So if there's a trailer for B3 on it, we will know it quickly...
But I'm not sure, because I've never seen anywhere that there is a trailer on this dvd.
well, if it comes out in the UK, does that mean it'll be in englsih or something?
I've added a german cover, which comes from Amazon.de , and it is the clearest cover I've ever found  :)  (Save it to your disk, to see it bigger)
And, of course it will be in english in the UK...and on the DVD, there are always 3 or 4 different languages to choose from. (we were talking about the LBT 10 DVD here, in case you were wondering...)
ohhh, i thought we were talking about balto 3 comming to the uk sept. 6th
^^; ehe...never mind
Hey, steetboris! Nice covers on the main page!

I just saw the newest one, and it seems that Kodi looks brown, not red or yellow as originally colored.

It must be a new pup! Kodi is of a new litter! I hope! That would make the story interesting IMO!

Hopefully, it shouldn't be too much longer before the US gets a release date plus a cover shot! Whee!
i dunno if this was said or not (i don't feel like going thru many pages to find out) but if you look at the rocks next to balto's left ear, it looks like a wolf's head.
I don't think it has ever been mentionned here, but on my site we have talked about it a little. But we can't say much things about it, maybe the drawer wasn't aware of that, maybe he did that intentionally, or maybe it has a part in the movie. Who knows...
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i dunno if this was said or not (i don't feel like going thru many pages to find out) but if you look at the rocks next to balto's left ear, it looks like a wolf's head.

Yeah I had kinda noticed that but thought it was just my eyes. I was thinking another "Pride rock" rip off lol
lol watch it have a purpose like pride rock