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Balto 3
not a double psot...its for real
Started by Fluke on 15 Aug 2002, 10:03 UTC · 149 preserved posts
As I've explained to White and Silver (and Blue and Lavender and..oh. Ahem.), I separate the Balto universes. Arthur Clarke (Author of "2001") explains it very nicely in the cover of one of his books. He wrote 2001 and three books afterward...but he doesn't connect them at all. Even though they feature the same characters, he asks us to think of it as though they are possible outcomes, or very similar events happening to similar characters in different universes. I'll have to find the direct quote.
I wonder what the theme of Balto III will be? If it really is a prequel, we won't have to worry about Balto's character changing, because we don't know what he was like as a pup. If it's not a prequel, there are so many different possibilites...
I really hope they don't make a prequel, because all of my Balto chars are FROM the prequel time. *sighs* Oh well, I'd be glad to see another Balto movie....regardless
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~Silver Wolf
(Edited by Silver Wolf at 10:54 pm on Aug. 15, 2002)
while ive been here in NY ive been in a Balto universe/heaven in Engel's room. Theres balto stuff everywhere! Balto watches me while i sleep...4 fold! *he has 4 posters* kinda creepy...
He agrees with me that WQ sucked but hey...hopefully theyll be able to get Kevin Bacon?
wait so did you mean that its in production or theyre just writing it?
Anyway, if Universal goes crazy with this one, I won't let the sequels ruin it for me. It's still a great movie, and always will be. ;)
*prays that it won't turn out like Secret of Nimh two*
(Edited by Kamotz at 12:50 am on Aug. 16, 2002)
I like your explaination Snow. ;)
I'll say it again, i'm not really interesting in finding out what happens to Aleu. She's a good character and all, but the movie is supposed to be about Balto.
Just my 2 cents. ;)
how i look at it is, the makers are not going to say hey lets not suck the life out of balto with countless sequels..they arent going to look at us and say they want balto to be special and not like land before time, lets just leave it at 3...no instead they are going to look at how much money balto 2 made...and go hmmm ppl bought it...lets do it again...there is money in balto. and lets face it i will buy balto 3...even if its really bad...i will cos its balto...as i bet alot of otehr ppl will. there will be money to be made on balto movies till one really flops and then they will say well it was nice while it lasted...and balto will be a hollow shell where a great animation movie once stood. but what worries me more is that balto 2 wasnt exactly a blockbuster...ok so they would have madealot of money compared to what normal ppl make in a normal job...but compared to other movies? i know as a fact here it was really hard to get ahold of and it never even made it into the charts...and thats out of 100! they wont stop releasing balto movies till the figures go REALLy low...
ok thats my rant over im going round and round in circles in my head. hmm circles are a good thing?
That's why it's kinda tough to be an adult fan of animation sometimes.
Anyhoo, my 2 cents *plink, plink*
~Cypher ^..^
On the positive, perhaps the publicity Balto is receiving will lead to a new line of merchandise? You have to just love capitolism: it works well to start anything and everything, but eventually yields only money-making corruption and ruin.
~ Jay ~
KSC FL
hey Do we have a poll button on this forum? . I wonder how many people would like a prequel or sequel. hmm?
*Chews on an armadillo skull*
Where is that person's source?
Vesta
But then again, my experience has not been with Direct to Video animation time-frames so this could be WAY off! lol
~Cypher ^..^
(Edited by CypherMutt at 2:53 pm on Aug. 18, 2002)
3 weeks? That's just scary... ^_^;;;
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| Quote: from Silver Huskey on 9:03 pm on Aug. 18, 2002 I think DW said the earliest Balto 3 would be out is some time in 2004... � 3 weeks? �That's just scary... ^_^;;; |
A complete animated film in just three weeks... I think that the work put on the animators would constitute as "slave labor". LOL.
~ Jay ~
KSC FL
I just hope they don't put anymore singing songs on it
I think if they keep making them soon it well just drop balto all together and become Aleu. Well, I know one think I think it is crazy but I'll still watch it. I wonder if they will Finnish were they left off? I wise they would show Balto when he was young so we could see his Farther.
Bleh, another Balto movie? A prequel would be good, though I thought maybe they might do the live-action parts they had in the original Balto if it was another sequal. How Aleu or Balto could perform yet another accomplishment to make them a legend is beyond me.
Now for a rant on the second movie, as I was late in adding to this topic. Hooray. The spiritualism of the movie was okay, but I just found it odd how they took the Balto movie in a whole new direction. I don't think Aniu and the white wolf from the first movie are the same, although my mom does. They differed in personality as well as looks. (7 years must do something to your eye color, eh?) When the white wolf turned away from Balto and walked a little away, if Balto hadn't howled, then he/she wouldn't have came back. Probably, I don't write for them. Maybe that isn't the point, though. Odd writing mood. Anyway, in the second movie, Aniu basically threw him into the situation by forming it greatly giving him the dreams and making the spirits of the totem pole appear (As well as giving Aleu the ability to see across the ice towards the caribou running across.).
I'll have to agree they might turn this into a corporate production thing and suck the life out of it. You know what you see anymore? Two words: Animated. Sequals. All Dogs Go To Heaven had one, two if you count the Christmas video. Lion King had one (I actually like that movie. "Roasty-toasty princess! Roasty-toasty princess!"). Thumbellina (sp?) had one (Forever and a day since I watched it, ditto with you too, Nimph.) and so does Peter Pan. Classics aren't classics anymore, because money is the key word, though let me just say if I make any books into a movie that's good (*Snort.* Like someone'd make an animated movie out of my books. =P), and they want to make a sequal unrelated to what happens in the books, or something I don't like, they can do it over my dead body. =P
Sorry for the longness of the post, but as I mentioned, I've been away for a while.
[Edited to fix some parts of the post I thought were said wrong.]
(Edited by ShadowWolf at 7:12 pm on Aug. 21, 2002)
Anyway, to the topic again.. What I find the weirdest part about the Balto 2 movie is that the first Balto movie was supposed to let us remember the Alaskan epidemic as it was based off it, right? And then they made a sequal about it. Although that could have just been a favor for us Balto fans to show it hasn't been forgotten. ^_^
http://www.geocities.com/zykwulf/balto3_updates.html
Oh yeah DW used to drop by during weekly Balto League chats. There he became friends with a good deal of members. ;)
18 months is not too long, but considering the hold-up by Universal...I just hope they'll be putting up plan for mass-merchandise and stuffs! :bigggrin:
The soundtrack...hmmm...guess we'll have to rip the music of the DVD and compile them. Wonder if Universal really plans of releasing an official copy.
How about asking DW? He might give us some news on that ;)
Now, if I remember correctly, wasn't there someone here awhile ago who said they saw Aleu plushies at Universal studios? Maybe they were wrong, but I want to go down there and check anyway. ^_^;;
one thing evry land before time has gay songs in it while balto doesnt have any and wolf quest only has 2 but there good ones. Balto has dogs and wolves, LBT has imaginary dinosaurs that should be tearin each others limbs out instead being oh freindly and happy
and dont know what anything is ect.
Balto is more exciting and Lbt well it just sucks and it never was good. if Balto does turn into LBT though i can just imagine what ill see ( Balto is walking and all of sudden a avalanche falls and theres a giant bracheosaurus that says "HI, Im little foot")
Me want Prequal!!
I wouldn't mind having alot of Balto's....but if it takes on a kindergarden tone, I will..uh....do something not nice.
I"m glad we have a buddy of a buddy in the bussiness. We can track it's every movie mwaaa!!
Oh and welcome to that boards gray wolf
BTW, wolf quest had 4 songs. ;)
i can think of muru song and the inuit rock song oh yes and the one where balto is giving away the puppys
if you mean the one at the credits that doesnt count
besides thiese songs are good and there not sung by the main characters which is good.
Gah. Please dun' let Balto turn out like TLBT!
Aleu: Niju, you have to learn about respect and being nice!
*Excuse me while I puke*
BTW, I'll be off for a few days. I'm flying back to my hometown for my semester break here. See ya guys later! :biggrin:
Have a good trip! ;)
Balto II was sitting under Best-Sellers when I was walking through Target tonight. That's worth something. But they should re-release the Balto soundtrack along with it. Hey, they re-released the movie, didn't they?
i think we covered those points already lol
but as we all know dtv movies arent always best in quiality animation usually its just for somthing for the kids to enjoy.
Hmm I have similar tastes with you on WQ, but not that serious! Cheer up, I don't think it's that bad. Besides being a DTV movie, it's all new in other aspects- the production crew, the techniques... You can't really expect WQ to be similar to the first one. And yes, it wasn't as good as 'Balto', but I can't let my spirit down yet. Not now...! I'm putting high hopes on Balto 3, I sure am... :wink:
and i am a 16/f/canada
(Edited by LongBow986 at 12:36 am on Mar. 1, 2003)
Than I'm k with them makking anthoer Balto. I just hope it has Alue's pups in it. But it's supost to revovle around Balto's son so I'm thinking this son of balto's is probly the one they call Dingo.
| Quote (RustedWolf_Fox @ Mar. 21 2004,3:52, pm) |
| I don't mind everybody not wanting to be 10 Baltos but saying they're doing it for the money, I don't really like that. Ever thought that they have families to support? Besides, there are a few LBT that I do find enjoyable, so maybe the same can be said with Balto. *shrugs* |
If each new sequel gets progressively worse, the animation cheaply done, and the story poorly thought out, what else could it be? �Especially when the movie is done as cheaply as possible to hold on to profits. They could easily make money by doing something new and creative, and not beating the dead horse any further. �After all, it is Universal, not some upstart company.
Ya' know what...the producers ought to look at some of the stories that have come out by us fans and see what they can do 'bout movies. I mean, if they really are gonna make a whole bunch, they should be good. I have to say that I have read a bunch of fan fic that is excellent!
Just a thought.
| Quote (Silver Huskey @ Mar. 22 2004,1:56, am) | ||
If each new sequel gets progressively worse, the animation cheaply done, and the story poorly thought out, what else could it be? �Especially when the movie is done as cheaply as possible to hold on to profits. They could easily make money by doing something new and creative, and not beating the dead horse any further. �After all, it is Universal, not some upstart company. |
A bunch of untalented hacks? Can't really say bad animation, considering the first Balto wasn't that great in that area. It's not the worst, but it's not the greatest. The storyline does sound promissing, being it sounds like they got a couple of well known writers with this one.
Besides, it could be worse, they could be planning a TV series..
The budget for each movie, if they made more, would most likely progressively decrease. That means: terrible voice-actors, not-quite-so-good animation, and who knows what else?
~Ayipuyi~
If they make Balto into another LBT thing......well, lets just say that my troops will be "practicing" in a certain part of Florida. XD *Plots*
*prays* God, give us a good-animated sequel for Balto! (with a decently decent story!) Please!
~Thank.you.for.reading.my.rant.
Look what I' ve seen at the Baltoleague:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thebaltoleague/message/8797
sounds Interesting, or not?
| Quote (Balto_1982 @ Mar. 29 2004,9:43, pm) |
| Balto 3 News! Look what I' ve seen at the Baltoleague: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thebaltoleague/message/8797 sounds Interesting, or not? |
I'm relatively sure that he didn't want people posting what he said or really talking about it on other sites. In fact, I'm pretty sure he said that MULTIPLE TIMES.
So yeah.
Yes I have heard about the Balto 3... I like telling people about it.....
| Quote (Hybrid @ Mar. 27 2004,12:02, am) |
| I fear that B3 is going to be about the same over all as WQ. *Shudders* Hopefully i'm wrong though. � If they make Balto into another LBT thing......well, lets just say that my troops will be "practicing" in a certain part of Florida. XD *Plots* |
Balto III: Winds of Change info
after seeing this link, I think so too. �It'll just be a WQ with a male character instead of the female and itll look nothing like Jenna's pups and the producers will have to make stupid excuses as done with The Lion King II
still I hope it has the same beauty as Balto II. �If it is gonna more loyal to the original than it's gonna suck that Balto II would be the bad one in the trio
damn, I havent been here in a while
| Quote (aleusong @ April 29 2004,8:52, pm) |
| after seeing this link, I think so too. It'll just be a WQ with a male character instead of the female and itll look nothing like Jenna's pups and the producers will have to make stupid excuses still I hope it has the same beauty as Balto II. If it is gonna more loyal to the original than it's gonna suck that Balto II would be the bad one in the trio |
I don't think Balto 3 will be the same as Balto 2 after all the original writers are back, And am I the only one here Who likes Balto 2?
| Quote (SimbasGuard @ April 29 2004,10:50, pm) | ||
I don't think Balto 3 will be the same as Balto 2 after all the original writers are back, And am I the only one here Who likes Balto 2? |
i did like Balto II. It's one of the best cheapquels out there and it was beautifully on atmosphere and story! �I'm just afraid for the sake that this is a DTV sequel that it might turn out the same story. �i hope not I know these guys can come up with more original junk
Hopefully were both wrong and it will be a great film...
"I lucked out and got a lucrative voiceover a couple of weeks ago that will help my dwindling bank account. If you happen to purchase the "Balto 3" DVD, play the game on the disk and you can hear me say things like, "Great job!" and "Help Balto get through the woods. Press clear to start over."
That's not much, just that like balto 1 & 2 there is a game on the DVD and that there are woods in the film...
| Quote (steetboris @ June 14 2004,2:57, am) |
| I have a bit of new informations: I already found that Balto 3 has been rated G by the MPAA, but I also found this on someone's homepage: "I lucked out and got a lucrative voiceover a couple of weeks ago that will help my dwindling bank account. If you happen to purchase the "Balto 3" DVD, play the game on the disk and you can hear me say things like, "Great job!" and "Help Balto get through the woods. Press clear to start over." That's not much, just that like balto 1 & 2 there is a game on the DVD and that there are woods in the film... |
Wow..Thanks for that slew of new information! oh and BTW..Your webpage is awesome..and might I add..you have a new regular vistor..Later!
-Midnight
Sorry... I'm losing it now
| Quote (Dayami_Silver_Wolf @ June 14 2004,4:40, pm) |
| The film finished? WOW! That means they'll fix it up and everything and get it out in a few months |
That would be nice, But I'll stay calm untill I see the first Prevew. After all Universal sat on Balto 2 for Two years after It was finished
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| After all Universal sat on Balto 2 for Two years after It was finished |
That's exactly what I fear, I also remember to have seen the Balto 3 DVD to be reviewed on december 2005 on a list...but that was the same for many other DVDs so I suppose that means they still haven't got a release date.
| Quote (steetboris @ June 15 2004,1:17, am) |
| I also remember to have seen the Balto 3 DVD to be reviewed on december 2005 |
That's when I said it would come out. What a louzy time to be right
Thanks Simbasguard... Now, I don't feel alone here anymore
| Quote (Aneiryu @ June 15 2004,2:46, pm) |
| I kinda have mixed feelings about this one. I want to see more of Balto's life, but not if it's gonna be like WQ. Though, I am hopeful, seeing that some of the original crew are on board for B3. Hopefully it'll come out soon. |
I agrees with Aneiru.*sorry bout spelling* I agrees with Ayipuyi also! I do want it about Balto's life.. Also, I want it out now too
| Quote (Dayami_Silver_Wolf @ June 15 2004,2:01, pm) |
| Thanks Simbasguard... Now, I don't feel alone here anymore |
Your Wellcome
| Quote (SimbasGuard @ June 15 2004,7:02, pm) |
| I think steel is a great villian, And I would love to see Him in Balto 3. So Balto can beat the tar out of Him � |
You're forgetting one of the Laws of Hollywood Movies:
If two mortal enemies fail to kill each other, they will inevitably become friends
| Quote (Ayipuyi @ June 15 2004,3:49, pm) |
| I don't know.I don't care for the Trio,or Steele,no offense.I would like to see wolves,or Nava.Or maybe Balto's son falls in love with a hybrid outcast.That would be interestng. |
indeed
| Quote (Ayipuyi @ June 15 2004,2:49, pm) |
| Maybe Balto's son falls in love with a hybrid outcast.That would be interestng. |
Me neither.. I really enjoyed seeing them but, they're also annoying
The wolves would be fun to see again... That'll be interesting if Balto's son is like him... being a shy-hearted mix
I know I don't make any sence there.. But, yeah
| Quote (Joshua @ June 16 2004,12:45, am) |
| If two mortal enemies fail to kill each other, they will inevitably become friends � |
Balto and Steele? Nah, I still think Steele has too much pride. At the very least, all I can see is an uneasy peace between them. Sort of like a cease fire, although the tension is still there.
| Quote (SimbasGuard @ June 16 2004,11:32, pm) |
| But will Niju accept Nava? Oh and the only way I think Balto and Steel could be friends is if Steel had a certain operation that would calm Him down |
The relationship between Nava and Niju is not the same as the one with Balto and Steele. �I believe to a certain degree that the two wolves respect each other. �Besides, Nava said he was going to find Niju at the end of the movie. �So they'd probably more or less work something out.
Not like Steele and Balto. �With Steele I still say it's pride and prejudice. �That operation you speak of wouldn't do much to fix that. �Perhaps he wouldn't think so fondly of Jenna, but it'd have no effect on his feelings toward Balto.
| Quote (Joshua @ June 16 2004,12:45, am) |
| If two mortal enemies fail to kill each other, they will inevitably become friends |
Actually, there is a lot to be said about this. I think you're absolutely correct. I find that, forgive the Matrix relation, people can truly know each other by fighting one-another. It's kinda wierd...but then again, it's a human thing, not a dog thing. I don't know, exactly what would be going through a dog's mind.
And, Silver's right. Niju doesn't necesisarily hate Nava. They simply don't see eye to eye. Niju probably also believes that the young should rule, not the old.
| Quote (Silver Huskey @ June 17 2004,1:52, pm) |
| That operation you speak of wouldn't do much to fix that. Perhaps he wouldn't think so fondly of Jenna, but it'd have no effect on his feelings toward Balto. |
Good point. As for Niju not hating Nava, He did intend to kill Him
This is what it says:
9.Juni 2004
Im Berliner Blackbird Studio finden die Synchronaufnahmen zum Film "Balto 3"
statt.Ille singt im Duett den Titelsong f�r diesen Film ein.Der film erscheint auf DVD.
The version cached in Google is slightly different:
Im Berliner Blackbird Studio finden die Synchronaufnahmen zum Film
"Balto 3" statt.Ille singt 2 Songs im Duett f�r diesen Film.
Does someone here understand German? I suppose that it says some german people have recorded the songs for the german version of the Balto 3 DVD (Blackbird is a recording studio in Germany)
| Quote (SimbasGuard @ June 17 2004,10:46, pm) |
| Good point. � �As for Niju not hating Nava, He did intend to kill Him |
Yeah, Niju did. But I'd say he wasn't quite sane in that moment. After all, he faced the very real danger of being alone and took it out on Nava and Aleu. It's still not the hatred that Steele had for Balto.
By the way, I have some news about Balto 3, not much as usual: the man who has been doing the voiceover of the game on the DVD has replied this on his website:
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Apparently there are quite a few Balto fans out there. I�ve gotten a couple of emails from different parts of the planet asking for more information on Balto 3. I guess if you do a search engine query for the movie, my site pops up because of my writing about having done the voiceover for the DVD. Dear Balto fans: I have no idea what the story is about. I have no idea what the release date is, although I think I picked up that it would be released in Europe first. I�m just the voice on the game that�s included on the DVD. If you play, you�ll hear me giving instructions and cheering you on as you help Balto and his friends do stuff. I know Balto is a dog. That�s about all. Uhhh... he is a dog, right? |
Balto 3 released in Europe first !!? Wow, that would be a surprise! And since I'm french, it would be a really good information for me...That would also link to the german songs recently recorded. (my previous post)
It is natural for young wolves to challange the leadership of the alpha. It is built into there genes to do that. If a young wolf cant take over the packs leadership, they sometimes leave and wander alone seeking to start a new one. That is why they are often refered to as lone wolves. But in the wild, the old dont live long. It is the survival of the fittest that determans who lives, and who dies.
So in a sense, if Alue and Balto did not come along and meet the pack. Niju would have eventually been leader. And with his lack of experience, not a good one.
Can someone confirm this information?
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| Dear Balto fans: I have no idea what the story is about. |
AAHAHAHAHHAA! Poor guy. I can imagine him opening up his mail client one day and finding hordes of e-mail from rabid "Balto" fans. Not like he'd really tell any way... not unless he doesn't mind not working in the industry ever again.
The situation between Nava and Niju is an interesting one, and is probably one of the major sore points of the movie. However, one does get the sense of what they were trying to shoot for; their "not seeing eye to eye" would be the best way to describe it, as was mentioned here earlier, and while the director didn't pull it off quite right, it's still kinda cool that they tried for it any way (which happens to be my feelings for the rest of the film too. I just love it that they at least tried.)
Introducing "gray" characters into cartoons is something I think should happen more often. I'm tired of a black and white world, where it's very clear who the bad guy is, and often they're just being bad for the sake of bad.
Niju genuinely cares about his pack. You can hear it in his voice when the wolves are out on the ice, and he yells out, "No! You'll all die!" And even Balto and Aleu's first encounter/battle had a very valid reason for happening from the wolves' point of view. Food was scarce, and now suddenly there's two extra mouths in the forest. What's a hungry wolf to do? And "prophecies" from an old coot be damned!
I am hoping that B3 will build up from that, with more characters that aren't really evil, but instead simply have their own ideas about how to live life.
And on the note of prophacies from the old and the past... they can happen. I believe in certain prophacies that have been told to me by family. One should always listen to the elders. They have made it through life to be old for a reason. And they hold much wisdom that the young do not know.
And I agree with you Joshua on them introducing a grey to the usual black and white world. Things are never as simple as to be just black and white.
| Quote (Lone Wolf @ June 20 2004,8:39, pm) |
| One should always listen to the elders. They have made it through life to be old for a reason. And they hold much wisdom that the young do not know. And I agree with you Joshua on them introducing a grey to the usual black and white world. Things are never as simple as to be just black and white. |
Very good Points Lone Wolf, And Joshua